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The Antikythera Mechanism (Computer - 56BC)
Economist ^ | 9-19-2002

Posted on 04/30/2006 7:21:04 PM PDT by blam

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I'll look around for some more pictures.
1 posted on 04/30/2006 7:21:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The existence of "modern" metal gears at that time seems strange.


2 posted on 04/30/2006 7:24:29 PM PDT by Williams
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

Reconstruction

3 posted on 04/30/2006 7:26:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The History Channel did a good job on this. "Gears from the Greeks" by De Solla Price is a fascinating book, even if he didn't get it quite right.


4 posted on 04/30/2006 7:27:18 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Williams
I know, call me a flip-flopper but where I was once Antikythera, I am now Prokythera. A person can grow, can't he?
5 posted on 04/30/2006 7:30:05 PM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Where's the keyboard and monitor? How do you plug it in?

They find some ancient royal Greek geek's music box (Ipod) and these freaks call it a computer?


6 posted on 04/30/2006 7:32:25 PM PDT by 308MBR (The GOP should remember the fate of the Whigs as they run away from their base.)
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To: Williams
A link to many pictures here.
7 posted on 04/30/2006 7:34:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: 308MBR

You don't have to plug it in. Was steam driven.

You fire it up.


8 posted on 04/30/2006 7:37:13 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: TASMANIANRED

In all seriousness, I saw the show and still think it was either a music box or a device for animating some sort of statue or display, whether the mainspring rotted away or it was steam powered is no matter.

That being said, on anything short of a modern CNC machine the manufacturing of gears is still quite touchy. At least with the CNC, you can make scrap faster!

Go to the AGMA. That's the American Gear Manufacturing Association.


9 posted on 04/30/2006 7:52:43 PM PDT by 308MBR (The GOP should remember the fate of the Whigs as they run away from their base.)
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To: blam

It looks like a watt-hour meter. Did the guy find any TVs and radios?



10 posted on 04/30/2006 7:56:21 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: blam; Holly_P

Thanks Blam. Two similar topics:

Did The Ancient Greeks Make A Computer?
An Article | 1977 | Lionel Casson
Posted on 11/01/2003 12:21:03 PM EST by Holly_P
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1012790/posts

The Antikythera Mechanism: Physical and Intellectual Salvage from the 1st Century B.C.
USNA Eleventh Naval History Symposium | 1995 | Rob S. Rice
Posted on 08/14/2004 6:01:21 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1191651/posts


11 posted on 04/30/2006 8:08:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam. A ping, because it has been a while, and perhaps 200 people have joined since then.

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12 posted on 04/30/2006 8:09:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Antikythera search:
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13 posted on 04/30/2006 8:11:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

Amazing


14 posted on 04/30/2006 8:15:30 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Williams

It's not mentioned here but in 1900 there was speculation that it could have been tossed off of a much more modern ship, and just happened to "land" among the Antikythera wreckage.


15 posted on 04/30/2006 8:17:47 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: blam
Since so little of the mechanism survives, some guesswork is unavoidable

This never seems to bother anthropologists.
16 posted on 04/30/2006 8:23:01 PM PDT by Nachoman (I love greasy old bolt guns.)
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To: blam

It's not entirely surprising. For one thing, Archimedes built some amazing mechanical weapons back then (as well as calculated mass and put "leverage" into scientific context).

For another, there is a **reason** that our language calls them planetary gears, historically.

17 posted on 04/30/2006 8:37:40 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"For another, there is a **reason** that our language calls them planetary gears, historically."

Neat. Hadn't thought of that.

18 posted on 04/30/2006 8:53:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Ah, Derek DeSolla Price ... back, so my cousin says, when the Ivy League was on top of it's game and before the PC-digressions. Derek was, I am told, a true gentleman scholar (and here, not entirely wrong).
19 posted on 04/30/2006 9:23:35 PM PDT by dodger
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20 posted on 04/30/2006 10:06:09 PM PDT by knews_hound (When Blogs are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Blogs.)
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