Posted on 05/02/2006 11:56:46 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
Don't give Havoc more ammunition...
26 Feb 1974 A U.S. Senate report reveals Ford Motor's involvement in Nazi Germany's war efforts, for which CEO Henry Ford received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Adolf Hitler himself. After the war, the car company was paid nearly $1M reparation by the U.S. government to compensate for one of its plants that was bombed within the Reich.
Hey, what's a law when profit margin is involved. You're supposed to curse, spit and say something about "regulation" aren't you... Don't let's get religion now and try to explain it away. Where'd the profit at any cost mantra vanish to?
Companies are not machines. Companies are a collection of people with and without ethics. Those people work for a living - yes even make profits for the greater good of the whole. But that does not diminish their responsibility to act in the better interests of this nation instead of their raw greed. Law or no law. For people who complain endlessly about proliferation of laws and regulation, it's interesting that you find God on those subjects when hit with harsh reality.. and then only to handwring. It's pretty pathetic that one should have to argue legal/illegal vs right/wrong when it comes to the greater good of the nation. Especially when this rot is coming from the GOP who should know better. You should know better!
And if the public had known about it, Ford would have been finished. That's the part you neglected to mention.. Probably because you know it's true and doesn't help you.
As far as I know there are very few laws regarding profit margin.
Also, I don't believe "profit at any cost" on a personal level. I don't even believe in profit at any cost for corporations. I believe that some money should be poured back into R&D etc.
But you're dead wrong in your view of companies. They really are "machines." If you expect them to act in a moral fashion then you're in for a lot of disappointment.
Ford was a weird, weird guy. But that's pretty common for technologically oriented folks who are focused on their discipline.
Havoc Mind: Hire Me. It doesn't matter if I have no marketable skills. You must hire me. It is my birthright as an American.
If you don't like that, tough, it's your problem. They do have that responsibility.
Havoc Mind:Hire Me. It doesn't matter if I have no marketable skills. You must hire me. It is my birthright as an American.
The older generation and the ethical amongst the new still know that. Those of you that seem to have forgotten what ethics and patriotism are do get it.
Havoc Mind:Hire Me. It doesn't matter if I have no marketable skills. You must hire me. It is my birthright as an American.
You just would rather make profit than be loyal.. Again, see the Rosenburgs.
Havoc Mind:Hire Me. It doesn't matter if I have no marketable skills. You must hire me. It is my birthright as an American.
Gee, Dumb2003 jumping threads to pester me again. Who would have imagined that..
Companies don't have a will of their own, nor a conscience. The peeple running them do. And, yes, they are expected in America to operate in an ethical fashion. It just seems that many more nowdays resort to what they can get away with instead of doing right for right's sake. But, then, that is what we get when people abandon proper ethics for money.
Lets look at the Tale of the Tape, shall we? For starters:
Companies are a collection of people with and without ethics. Those people work for a living - yes even make profits for the greater good of the whole. But that does not diminish their responsibility to act in the better interests of this nation instead of their raw greed.
Who said this? Hint: It may sound like Karl Marx, but it is someone much closer to you.
Ford was generally an ok guy by all that I've read. The guy paid High wages knowing that people couldn't buy his product unless he paid enough that they could afford it. In today's world, that is truly rare.
Now you're talkin'. Stalin knew how to handle successful capitalists!
Send em off to Siberia for some re-education!
Then we'll see if these capitalist pigs still want to offer a quality product for a good price.
Let's not and just imagine you aren't here, jumping threads to pester me because that's what you do and is the only reason you're here as your initial post displays. And here we were talking about people with no ethics.. Gee.
> Capitalism is good.
> Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. Capitalism isn't good. No.
>Capitalism is OUTSTANDING!
I'd keep it as
"With people, Capitalism (Free Trade) is as good as it gets."
> Clothing quality is about the only beef I have with Wal-Mart. I think it's a great store, overall.
But at their prices, I could practically afford to wear the underwear once and throw it away.
What's the beef with capitalism, traitors in this country have always employed capitalism in selling us out. Lest yet another person scalping the treason-lobby playbook be allowed to muddy the debate with strawmen, we'll state that it is not capitalism on trial here.. but rather patriotism and ethics.
Capitalism is not being questioned.. To quote a true statesman, "It is their judgement that has been sorely lacking" (That's Zell Miller for those in RioLinda).
How is Wal Mart destroying American jobs and American companies? I submit to you American unions along with some bad management at companies are destroying more jobs than Wal-Mart. Look up the problems GM and Ford are having for a great example of this vs their non union, job producing Japanese counterparts that are BUILDING NEW FACTORIES in AMERICAN communities.
None the less these Wal-Mart bash threads are fun to read. The Protectionist/Buchann wing of FR is fun to spar with on this issue.
You really take posts that expose you personally, don't you?
You have yet to justify your socialist postings -- this time I made sure I kept the posts in the poliival arena.
There is no reason to attack me because I exposed you for the Socialist you are.
Maybe you could refer me to a specific example of this "sorely lacking judgment"?
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