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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: All

The President did a decent job and I support his choice to have the guard help out with the border.

But...

It still sounds like amnesty to me.


741 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:46 PM PDT by Thirteen_bravo
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To: bnelson44

LOL! I hope you are kidding.


742 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:49 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: All

Would you guys for God's sake go read the demographic/age breakdown of the US Census.

There Are Not Enough Americans Of Working Age For An Economy This Large. The ageing of the population has consequences and this is one of them. It's not "jobs Americans won't do". It's "there aren't enough Americans of the right age to do the jobs".

Foreign workers have got to be managed one helluva lot better than they have been, but the nation's economy cannot survive a reduction in their numbers to zero.

This is a very good speech. The door needs to close. Period. Aspiring Americans have to toe the legal line, and then get to work. Crack down on legal enforcement, but if you try to outlaw all foreign manual work workers, the economy at its current size simply cannot tolerate that.

Now if you'd like to see a Depression magnitude reduction in the economy's size, maybe by 50% with your mother on the street selling apples like in 1930, then go ahead and reduce foreign worker count to zero.


743 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:49 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Jorge
The idea that we are going to deport millions of people simply isn't going to happen. That's reality.

Everytime this piece of mental confusion gets re-uttered the 12 million illegal aliens already here grow bolder and more confident, and the 20 million that are thinking about coming across the border squeal with delight.

Until we try, we don't what we can do. Employing a variety of measures we can likely get rid of at least 80 percent of the problem.

744 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:50 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: bnelson44
He is in a tough position.

Yep, but I think the President got it right. Impressive.
745 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:50 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: pissant
He says one thing and then disables any good in the next statement.

I can see if Mexico wants to be annexed, but this is ridiculous.
746 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mnehrling
You're right. I think one of the most promising thing about this plan is the end of catch and release. It'll be somewhat of a deterrent to many. We'll just have to see but I'm not going to skewer our President until the chance is given to him to act on his plans.
j
747 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: gas_dr
I think this is a home run.

I do too. Of course it is much to reasonable for many here.

748 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:57 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Well,look at it this way. The President must govern a country...I thought his tone expressed conservative ideals and met with the idea that politics is the art of the possible. THIS IS GREAT INCREMENTALISM AND HE SHOULD BE APPLAUDED...


749 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:57 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Severa

I think he only repeated what he has said in the past but in one place now so no one can claim ignorance. And I am okay with the guestworker program and the requirement for them to learn english, and go thru steps to citozenship. This "Bush is for amnesty" crap it tiresome.

And he didnt address the Natl Guard being deployed but pointed out to Congress they need to act. And that will make provisions for the border.


750 posted on 05/15/2006 5:22:59 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: TFine80

It's a fantastic speech. W is the man.


751 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:00 PM PDT by zook
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To: NonValueAdded

Thanks. I missed it.


752 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:04 PM PDT by Nita Nupress (If Jack Bauer can carry a man-bag, then so can you.)
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To: nikola

Gop has lost me......this is supposed to be our guy and he is screwing us. All in the name of keeping wages down for the political donor/employer class.

up is down
freedom is slavery
day is night
criminals are immagrants......

Sheesh


753 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:05 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: MinorityRepublican

Roger Hedgecock now on kogo.com commenting on Bush speech.


754 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:08 PM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: bnelson44
Time FReepers quit wining, and started asking "how can we help"!
The Titanic has already sank...too late to re-arrange the deck chairs.
755 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:08 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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To: GRRRRR

It's the free market. Illegal immigration screws it up.

Sad attempt to justify criminal activity. Some people value principle and truth more than money.


756 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:08 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: All

Lou Dobbs is coming up next on CNN. I can't wait to hear his analysis... it should be interesting to say the least.


757 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:13 PM PDT by nikola
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To: KavMan

>>>Man, Most of you are freaking crazy, If he comes down too hard like lots of you here want say hello to Hillary in 2008!!<<<

Somehow I don't think he would be disappointed to see his honorary sister-in-law in that office.
He knows good and well what his program will cause.


758 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:13 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: zook

Pay your debt to society?

Are these illegals going to get the right to vote?

We do not allow convicted felons to get a right to vote.

What planet is he from?


759 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:18 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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To: zook

Thank you Bar, for that glorious statement.


760 posted on 05/15/2006 5:23:19 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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