Posted on 05/16/2006 9:27:24 AM PDT by Reagan Man
GIVE ME A BREAK. NEWT CAN SELL HIS SNAKEOIL ELSEWHERE
Well don't be too much of a victim...otherwise you'll have to be a Democrat.
Do you resemble that remark? :-)
"Miss the recent illegal alien marches waiving Mexican flags and demanding their "rights"?"
The reason they were marching was because congress is talking about cracking down on illegal immigration. The fact is we have made this a primary election year issue, not the illegals. The illegals will march any time we try to enforce the borders, election year or not.
This mess we have along our Southern border has been such a long time in the making, all of our Presidents, Congresses, etc., for the last 50 years or so deserve blame. Not just Bush and the Republicans.
B.S. The illegals now feel that they have reached a "critical mass" and can sway American politics. It appears they are right.
This mess we have along our Southern border has been such a long time in the making, all of our Presidents, Congresses, etc., for the last 50 years or so deserve blame.
Yep, except Reagan granted an amnesty after which the laws were supposed to be enforced. What happened there?
Not just Bush and the Republicans.
Sorry, but they're there now. With the job comes the problems. Deal with it.
You are wrong, at least in my state.
"Subtract the number of Libertarian votes from the difference of the losing Republican candidates and tell me how many elections have been "spoiled".
OK, That is easy in my state.
Since 1996; Congress-White/Inslee. Inslee won by the Libertarian & Heritage Party margin. Inslee is by far the most liberal congressman, ala McDermott.
2000 Senate-Gorton/Cantwell. Gorton lost to another RAT by the Libertarian margin.
2002 State House-Rockefeller/Large. Large lost to a former mainstream Republican who defected to the RAT's, (which is my goal, make all mainstreamer's migrate back home to the RAT party), by the libertarian margin.
2004 State House-TWO districts in MY county had Republican candidates lose by the libertarian margin. The 26th District had two; Lantz/Rice. The R challenger lost by 361 votes, libertarian candy maker/pot advocate Ted Healy, (Almond Rocca), polled 1800.
McMahan/Kilmer. The R challenger lost by 1000 votes. Libertarian candidate pulled 1250. Once again spoiler the hat goes to the libertarians in the 26th Washington Leg. district.
Just 20 miles North in the 23rd District-Mahaffay/Appleton. R challenger lost by the libertarian margin.
And last but far from the least; in the 2004 Gubernatorial race when you forget about voter fraud, Rossi still lost to Gregoire by the lesbian libertarian Ruth Bennett's margin.
That's just off the top of my head. Kinda disproves your preposterous statement. Facts have a funny way of doing that sometimes.
Miss the recent illegal alien marches waiving Mexican flags and demanding their "rights"?
These illegals have been around for many years. Who has stirred them up ? And why ? and why now ?
Is it just a coincidence that a wedge issue just happened to come up right before a pivotal election ?
IMHO, some republicans are being played like a fiddle.
losing and losing big in 2008 may be a better solution than the short term election of more RINO's and pro-illegal,big-spending pork lovers.
sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better.like an addict hitting rock bottom before they figure out they have a problem.In this case the addicts are Congress and they're addicted to earmarks,pork ,and illegal cheap labor.
Your assumption that all of the people who voted Libertarian would have voted for Republicans, whom most would never vote for under any circumstances is the preposterous thing.
Perhaps my math question was misguided because it never occurred to me that anyone who thinks clearly would start from such a goofy assumption.
Not to mention, you played fast and loose a few times in there with different parties, you state the numbers without documentation, and you insulted the people who you somehow think will vote for your idiot candidates if you do so.
Libertarian votes do not belong to your party, you need to earn them. Clearly that didn't happen. Facts like that have a way of showing the lunacy of "spoiler" lie.
That's the real trouble with libertarians and why I'll continue to hold you in contempt, lack of reality and situational ethics.
Glad your laughing. I thoroughly disagree. Twenty years of increasingly accomodative policies coupled with the significance of the population numbers of illegals have led us to a "flash point".
I am unaware that I said Bush and the current repubs don't deserve blame. Just not all of it. Deal with it.
I wasn't talking about apportioning blame at all. I was talking about the current office holder having to deal with the problem (and perhaps a disproportionate share of the blame) regardless of who is or isn't to blame.
Don't deny that this isn't being capitalized on by the usual suspects.
Doesn't mean it's not a problem however.
Agreed. it's a huge problem.
I agree Newt is conservative, however, Newt is a deeply flawed individual. He is a terrible spokesman for morality. Conservatism - morality = taxcuts + debauchery. That is not good enough for this Reagan Republican.
Being held in contempt by a contemptible person is an honor.
Please cite the situational ethics you falsely charge.
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