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To: do the dhue
I'm trying to be as clear as I can, and speak right from my heart. I do not understand why so many people are not seeing the forest for the trees.

The people at the top of the Republican Party, and Demonrat Party are globalists. The only argument between them is which way to jump, into the E.U. or to create a united Western Hemisphere.

This is not some secret plot, some tin foil hat theory, they have come right out with their plans for all to see. We can quote them, they are not hiding it, but they are also not "defining it" or what it's implementation actually means.

What has them sweating bullets right now is that the issue of illegal immigration and it's future implications for the continuing sovereignty of this nation and it's sovereign documents such as the Constitution, has united both democrat and republican bases in fear and dread of this Senate bill.

They are not sure of what our reaction will be. They are not really sweating us giving the Republican Party a royal paddling at the polls. The Republican elites are only worried about the defeat of their "Western Hemisphere" plans by having the ball thrown to the "Unite with the E.U." crowd known as demonrats.

Meanwhile the average joe is so scared spitless to face reality that he shuts his eyes tight and hides under the bed hoping if he just keeps from facing the monster it will go away. It ain't going away. Not for the Demonrat base or the Republican base.

So while these parties keep making noises and offering less than useless solutions that eventually get them what they are really after, we keep pretending they are sincere efforts made by less than bright politicians trying to walk a international and political tight rope. When the only tight rope both parties are walking is how to romance your sovereign nationhood out from under you. Placing Constitutional law in a useless position behind international and trade laws. The Supreme Court makes no secret that they are busy studying international law and where and how it will conflict with Constitutional law. If there is a conflict between the two guess which loses? Our Founding Fathers recognized this and warned us that we could and would lose our freedoms if we joined in entangling international treaties that would trump the Constitution.

And what's worse, some on this site fully understand what's up and think it's a great economic idea. To hell with nationhood and Constitutional protections when there is a profit to be made. In God We Trust? Heck no, not for them, for them it's "In the appointed board of directors we trust", for our human rights, our economic wealth, and our future.

I wish with all my heart that I was wrong, but I'm not. Some how, some way, we must take the reins of the Party from the hands of the globalists, both parties need to seek that same effort, that is where our focus needs to be if we are to stand any chance at all.

2,275 posted on 05/17/2006 7:49:22 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
The people at the top of the Republican Party, and Demonrat Party are globalists. The only argument between them is which way to jump, into the E.U. or to create a united Western Hemisphere.

Meanwhile the average joe is so scared spitless to face reality that he shuts his eyes tight and hides under the bed hoping if he just keeps from facing the monster it will go away. It ain't going away. Not for the Demonrat base or the Republican base.


And history offers little optimism. Reagan's amnesty was loathed. The big bailout of the peso by American taxpayers, strongly opposed by people in both parties. NAFTA, also opposed in both parties. The open-borders trucking stuff, also opposed (and stopped). And now, they want us to just trust them again.

I'll trust them when they have a manned and fenced border.

Mark Levin has been good on this stuff, especially on the Senate Republicans who voted against enforcement first and the recent elections where Republicans who were soft on illegals were defeated in primaries: "You Weasel Republicans who invite this, you are going to be punished in the primaries, that's where we conservatives will have effective control over things. You think you do now because of the Senate rules where a majority isn't good enough, where you can hold up legislation or threat filibusters or join with all your liberal friends on the other side of the aisle. Well, guess what? In Republican primaries, it doesn't work that way."
2,297 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:21 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: MissAmericanPie

I like to believe that the globalist are made up of interest groups who buy our politicians (demorats and republicans). I think we the people start to make waves that is when the professional politicians start to listen. I think we should rock the boat once in a while. Rock that boat in the Primary mostly. You know, hings are different between Republican and demorat. demorats will ignore problems such as north korea. kim jong ill told clinton to give him oil or he would build nukes. clinton gave him oil. kim very long time ill tried the same with Bush. Bush declined and that is when ill revealed that he already built nukes. As you know, the WTC was bombed under clinton. clinton had the chance to take the culprit into custody and clinton declined. I really don't think Bush would have done that. We are now hunting terrorist and not the other way around now. I remember the 1990s and all the gun bills. I don't see that today, thank the Lord. Our economy is now being built on strength. The kind of strength that can take $3.00 a gallon for gas. Not a Internet bubble that popped. Granted what goes up must come down. Republicans have made mistakes too. But I promise things will be different if the demorats get power. I hear and understand what you are saying. We have to get the Republicans to be loyal to the USA and not the interest of the EU or the UN or globalization. We need to stay in the party and clean it up from within. I am not cutting and running. I am staying right here with the Elephants and I am going fix our problems and not run from them.


2,322 posted on 05/17/2006 8:15:37 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Al Franken's eyes.)
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