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Illegals granted Social Security (05/18/06-Senate 50-49 vote/based on past illegal employment ????)
Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/19/2006 5:13:02 AM PDT by IrishMike

The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me," said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who offered the amendment yesterday to strip out those provisions of the immigration reform bill. "It just boggles the mind how people could be against this amendment." The Ensign amendment was defeated on a 50-49 vote. "We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican. "The Ensign amendment would undermine the work of these people by preventing lawfully present immigrant workers from claiming Social Security benefits that they earned before they were authorized to work in our community," he said. "If this amendment were enacted, the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families." Mr. Ensign was among 44 Republicans and five Democrats who voted to block such payouts

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; alien; aliens; congress; congressmorons; corruption; dnc; elections; gop; identitytheft; johnmccain; leaglizedidtheft; mccain; senate; socialists; socialsecurity; ssa; tax; taxes
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To: tkathy; Don Joe
You're giving the politicians a rap that most don't deserve. For the most part, they are marvelous people, caught up in a vast bureaucratic behemoth. The government isn't a "they" with god like powers.

Good lord..tkathy, how can you be that naive?!..

sw

161 posted on 05/20/2006 7:46:36 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Build the fence NOW)
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To: spectre

I maintain that if you were in their shoes you would probably be doing more or less the same thing. Politics is about getting reelected!

The politicians I have know personally have all been outstanding individuals.


162 posted on 05/20/2006 8:12:33 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: tkathy
Really? You must not know many politicans.

sw

163 posted on 05/20/2006 8:49:35 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Build the fence NOW)
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To: spectre

All of the republican politicians are under constant vicious asault in the media, while totally incompetent democrat policians like the Louisiana governor and the N.O. mayor get a free ride.


164 posted on 05/20/2006 10:32:03 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: GarySpFc
Americans do not qualify unless they have worked and paid into SS for 40 quarters, but illegal aliens receive these benefits after 8.

Actually that would be 16 quarters. 4 years x 4 quarters. :-) No matter, it still wrong!!

165 posted on 05/20/2006 11:09:41 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Don Joe

Mob rule. Plain and simple.


166 posted on 05/20/2006 7:10:16 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: VeniVidiVici
I am so annoyed by this. I am listed on the forums from the proposal during the halftime show of the Fiesta Bowl. I had to change websites to Dedicated to the One I Love and I am just annoyed. How on earth can elected officials authorize illegal behavior? How can anyone do this? I hope the HOUSE knows what it is doing.
167 posted on 05/20/2006 9:25:48 PM PDT by CFaithJarvis
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To: IrishMike

Has the nation lost it's collective mind altogether? Am I alone in wondering if all of this is not going to begin a civil war? No, I'm not suggesting one.


168 posted on 05/20/2006 9:29:53 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: Brilliant

"Personally, I think it's long past time for a revolution."

Oh, there's my answer. I'm not alone in wondering if all of this might lead to a civil war. Again, I'm not suggesting any armed conflict. But it seems that many skirmishes, even on American soil, have begun over much less than this.


169 posted on 05/20/2006 9:33:27 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: dcnd9

"If they have been using fake cards -- how can they get any benefits? Is the Senate that stupid???"

NO the Senate is NOT stupid! The Senate is ELITIST! The Senate has also apparently sold its conscience to treasonous elements.

Even though the Constitution was amended to allow for the direct popular election of federal senators, the amendment never changed the fact that the senators are sent BY the states. If your state legislature is more patriotic on the immigration issue, it needs to be approached to put pressure on your federal senators in the right direction.


170 posted on 05/20/2006 9:39:37 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: IrishMike
Chairman@GOP.com (Ken Mehlman)

I am directly contributing funds to any candidate that will oppose the Republicans who voted against SA 3985, the Ensign amendment.

As the president said SSA is in trouble, I believe illegal contributions must be forfeited. Illegal aliens have used our SSA numbers, our children's SSA numbers, and bogus numbers to collect benefits, vote and stay in this country. I thought the President and the Senate leadership said they are not for amnesty. Voting down SA 3985 is giving amnesty.

I would like to remind you that illegal aliens fraudulently using SSA numbers, obtaining driver license, and voting are felony offenses.
171 posted on 05/20/2006 9:45:06 PM PDT by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: LowNslow

Well said and I'm sure your not alone.
If the 'Republican'party is in trouble this 2006 election cycle, it's because 'conservatives' are stepping out from the sidelines.


172 posted on 05/23/2006 3:53:12 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Free Baptist

By being on this web site (and there are others) and reading the posts you can be assured you are not alone.


173 posted on 05/23/2006 3:55:18 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

.........I don't think anyone is arguing against lawfully present workers. If I rob a bank and invest the money in T-Bills, should I be able to collect the proceeds?........




Depends on who appointed the Judge hearing the case.


174 posted on 05/23/2006 3:57:31 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Brilliant

Here's the Senate Roll Call weblink. It will post all the 50 bone-head Senators that seem to believe Illegals should be given Social Security and Medicare benefits. View the Senate directory and write/phone these clowns and ask them if their resumes are current.

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&sessionfiltered=2&vote=00130


175 posted on 06/21/2006 3:09:59 PM PDT by Mother Liberty
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To: IrishMike
The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me"...

There truly is no hope for this country anymore.

Re my tagline, looks like the enemy is also our government.

176 posted on 06/21/2006 3:43:58 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The enemy never sleeps...)
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To: tkathy
"All of the republican politicians are under constant vicious assault in the media, while totally incompetent democrat politicians like the Louisiana governor and the N.O. mayor get a free ride."

We Republicans can handle the never ending "vicious assault by the media".

The difference between the Rats and us, is that we try to police our own and get rid of the RINO'S..

As for New Orleans. It's a cess poll and hell hole of everything that's rotten. I could care less who runs it.

sw

177 posted on 06/21/2006 4:19:58 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Return to sender..address unknown.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

IrishMike
The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me"...
There truly is no hope for this country anymore.

Re my tagline, looks like the enemy is also our government.


176 posted on 06/21/2006 3:43:58 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The enemy never sleeps...)

AND THANKS IN LARGE PART TO FREEREPUBLIC AND OTHERS, THESE CLOWNS DIDN'T PULL IT OFF. THE AMNESTY RINO/LIBERAL SENATE BILL IS DEAD. IF THE ENEMY NEVER SLEEPS, THEN WE MUST STAY VILIGENT..... AND WATCH THEM.


178 posted on 06/22/2006 3:20:40 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

What this means is that "all men are equal in the eyes of the law".....has been transformed into "some men are more equal than others". Suddenly its the 18th century again...where one's prospects, penalties, permisssions and prohibitions are defined by whether or not he is a member of the currently politically correct crowd clustering at the feet of the King..........


179 posted on 06/22/2006 3:25:06 AM PDT by mo
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To: mo

Your post confuses me,
First -all men are 'not' created equally.

The environment into which you are created, is a product of your forefathers.
America, like all countries is a product of our forefathers. Their struggles have created our environment, which is Americans to protect, cherish and defend.

Being a republic, the American people will express their desires by voting, and those laws are the laws of the land.
Countries where citizens have little or no rights, are products of their environments. There will be struggles for freedom, there will be attempts to subdue freedom.
America is a beacon, a guideing light, an example of what can come of struggle, morals, freedom, love of liberty and God. We are not created equally, never were, never will be.

'Give onto ceaser what is ceasers' .... as then, is now,
obey the laws of the land !


180 posted on 06/22/2006 3:57:02 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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