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Chavez to buy Russian jets
news.com.au ^ | 22 May 2006

Posted on 05/21/2006 6:49:50 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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To: cripplecreek
If he gets SU 47's he will be well on the way to achieving air superioroty in the region.

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41 posted on 05/21/2006 8:37:26 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: DakotaRed

Chavez has no clue, the F-22/A Raptor has a performance envelope which far exceeds the F-16. Quite simply there is nothing else in production anywhere else in the world that can compete with it.


42 posted on 05/21/2006 8:41:58 PM PDT by John Frum
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To: Candor7

..providing he has enough cash to buy enough SU47s to make a difference... then again, with all the rampant oil speculation giving our enemies money hand over fist to purchase the weapons...


43 posted on 05/21/2006 8:46:14 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Aussie Dasher

another obstruction against the US and China/Russia getting access to that oil.



44 posted on 05/21/2006 9:12:06 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head

Like Iran will buy a bunch of hanger queens to add to the ones they already have (old F14's).


45 posted on 05/21/2006 9:20:31 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

it worked for Iraq...har har har..


46 posted on 05/21/2006 9:32:09 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: kAcknor
The Iranians have had experience with U.S. fighters without having the support for them. A fleet of F-14's left over from the Shah. They didn't last long at all

Incorect. The Iranians have managed to keep about 30 of those F-14s airworthy thanks to the Soviets and the black market not to mention their fleets of F-4s and F-5s.

47 posted on 05/22/2006 9:30:31 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
OK, I don't have time to dispute, so I'll accept that.

They fly.

They may even have a gun that works.

In a stretch of imagination and impracticability beyond most reason, let's say they have a radar package shoehorned in from a 1980's version of from Soviet Block fighter (tubes and all!)

What they have are manned targets for any power with reasonably up to date aircraft.

48 posted on 05/22/2006 9:58:06 AM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: jazusamo; Hill of Tara; Victoria Delsoul; Army Air Corps; Thunder90; monkeywrench; cll; penowa; ...
LOL...I guess Chavez forgot that our pilots are probably about 100 times better than his.

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49 posted on 05/23/2006 11:39:25 AM PDT by proud_yank (A liberal's 'generosity' is limited to the funds available in someone else's account.)
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To: proud_yank
PULL!

Right on. :-)

50 posted on 05/23/2006 11:49:32 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: jazusamo

LOL, sounds like more of a pseudo real-life training exercise for our air force!


51 posted on 05/23/2006 12:16:16 PM PDT by proud_yank (A liberal's 'generosity' is limited to the funds available in someone else's account.)
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To: Candor7

He's looking to get SU27's and SU30's.

Also, the VENAF can't fly worth a crap due to their low aircraft maintenance rating. Less than 50% of the birds can get off the ground - that's why he wants to sell them to Iran.


52 posted on 05/23/2006 12:19:29 PM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Mr Chavez hailed the Russian Sukhoi fighters as "the best in the world, 100 times better than the F-16s".

Oh, to be a used car salesman in Venezuela today....

53 posted on 05/23/2006 12:22:09 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: roaddog727

Hell, Chavez should sell me one cheap, I could do a little crop dustin'! ( LOL)


54 posted on 05/23/2006 3:04:25 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Aussie Dasher

Not suprised....


55 posted on 05/23/2006 6:30:47 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: cripplecreek

Actually, that accuasion was made to keep the US off of Russia's back and to confuse us. Venezuela got new rifles in the end, and are getting permits to produce AK-103's, AK-74M's, and other Russian weaponry on their soil.


56 posted on 05/23/2006 6:32:01 PM PDT by Thunder90
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57 posted on 05/23/2006 6:32:31 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Flavius

Other sources refuted that as disinformation planted by the Russians and Venezuelans.


58 posted on 05/23/2006 6:34:15 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Candor7

Putin, the neo-Soviets, and his Chinese allies are testing the US.


59 posted on 05/23/2006 6:35:01 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Candor7

Su-47 uses a plasma stealth capability. Also, Russia has functioning MiG-1.44 aircraft, which are knockoffs of the F-35.


60 posted on 05/23/2006 6:36:33 PM PDT by Thunder90
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