Posted on 06/02/2006 1:51:10 PM PDT by Paladin2b
Its very old school. Actually members of the Air Corps as well as the rest of the U.S. Army wore uniforms like this at the turn of the century and through the 30s I believe. The color was different though.
The Navy has had dress whites, and other all white, uniforms for a long long time. The new Ensigns commissioned at the same ceremony that I was wore them, IIRC. They weren't always polyester. I'm surprised they still are, it's a dangerous fabric to be wearing on a ship, it melts in a fire.
The Navy has had dress whites, and other all white, uniforms for a long long time. The new Ensigns, who were commissioned at the same ceremony that I was, wore them, IIRC. They weren't always polyester. I'm surprised they still are, it's a dangerous fabric to be wearing on a ship, it melts in a fire.
Excuse me I'm about 15 mins behind.
The high collar version needs to lose the button located 2 inches below the belt.
It's not a mess dress, it's a service dress, uniform. They are worn when one wants to not look like one just came in from the field. The current practice of wearing BDU's, ACUs, or whatever for all occasions, bothers me somewhat. The Army is the worst about that. The Marines don't do it much at all, I must hasten to add. They have to wear the Alphas when traveling by commercial air for example, and they where them for meetings outside of military bases and/or with non military personnel, such as contractors. The Air Force is somewhere in between. The Navy is ... well.. the Navy, with more uniforms and combinations than the Army and Air Force put together.
A couple of weeks ago Jay Leno had an all military audience, only the Army guys were in utility uniforms. (Desert Cammo). The Air Force was in Service Dress, the Marines in Dress Blues, and the Coast Guard and Navy in uniforms comparable to the Service Dress of the AF or to Marine Alphas (not as fancy as the Dress Blues, which IMHO are the sharpest uniforms of any service.)
With the jump wings, probably a zoomie.
Ooh-la-la.
:)
But they were comfortable, if not too heavily starched. Both Army and Navy had similar uniforms at the time. I wore 1505s as an AF ROTC cadet in the early '70s. In fact at field training, we only had 1505s and fatigues. (plus that awful plastic raincoat)
Got the collar, but the coat is double breasted, not much the same look at all.
Bah. All the services should go to common uniforms, including dress uniforms. It's a waste of precious taxpayer dollars to endlessly redesign and field uniforms for each service.
There should be three uniforms: a daily wear/work uniform, a dress uniform, and a formal uniform. What the hell else do you need?
Agreed.
That's what I thought as well. Waffen SS.
The collar makes it look out of the '20's. A comparison to a WWI German uniform might be more apt.
I hadn't thought about that; Ya'all have to buy a new uniform each time it changes?
I think the flightsuits are nice. They should just issue some made of stiffer cloth for formal occasions, to be worn with a leather bomber jacket, and those shades. THAT'S how I picture the Air Force. :-)
I'm being funny. Ha-ha, with the playful ribbing and such. :-)
Waffen SS uniform. The collar is completely different, as is the color. (This is a Hollywood reproduction though, from a site that sells props and wardrobe.
The current AF uniforms, and the ones preceding them look more like WW-II Luftwaffe than these new ones, especially the high collar "Mitchell" version. The WW-II German uniforms had large squarish collar tabs. The belts did not match the fabric of the uniform either. They used shoulder boards, not epaulets.
Of course, although there is alway a considerable period where one can wear either the new or the old uniform. Like is currently the case with the old "Forrest" BDUs and the new digital ACUs. The army guys can even wear the new tan "rough out" boots. (well new by Army standards, they've only been around since the early '90s) with any of the three utility uniforms. By all accounts the troops like 'em. One Lt. Col. got his first pair last year when he was TDY (for several months) to Southwest Asia, and now wears them most every day, even though he is back to the "forest" BDUs.
"It's not a mess dress, it's a service dress, uniform"
I realize it is service dress/class A etc...never/very rarely used...
I have yet to wear/own a mess dress....
Well being a retired reserve Air Force officer working on an Army post (even the contractors are mostly retired or at least former Army) I'm a bit prickley about such "playful" ribbing. But I'm starting to feel comfortable enough with the folks to give it back, and they find they don't really enjoy playing games of wit with me. But the worst offender, being a Texas Aggie, just keeps coming back for more.
But, OTOH, I hadn't seen him for a while until yesterday, and he seemed glad to see me. Probably just trying to set me up for another attack. :)
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