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New service dress prototypes pique interest [possible new USAF uniform]
Air Force Link ^ | 18 May 2006 | Air Force Public News

Posted on 06/02/2006 1:51:10 PM PDT by Paladin2b

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To: Paladin2b
Airmen look best in the good 'old-school' flightsuit.



(She would kill me if she knew I was posting this photo.)
101 posted on 06/02/2006 6:14:05 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: dakine
I realize it is service dress/class A etc...never/very rarely used...

My point was that the class A used to be mandatory wear, much of the year. Unless one was working on the flight line or doing other work where mechanics clothing would be appropriate. It's no accident that the old fatigues were pretty much the same, except in green, as what auto mechanics, plumbers, etc wore at the time. They were a work uniform, "blue collar" type work. If you worked in an office, you didn't wear 'em you wore class A's or something similar. In the 80s that meant the same pants with a shirt that could be worn open collar, or with a tie, depending on circumstances. (Of course that was too comfortable for certain brass, so they changed the rules to require wear with a tie, unless it was the outer garment. You couldn't wear the lightweight jacket unless you also wore a tie. Other wise at most southern bases, folks would rarely wear it any other way.

What's currently missing, but present when I was serving, is something equivalent to "corporate casual". Once the kahki 1505s (named after the number assigene to the color/shade) later it was the regular dress uniform's pants or something like "dockers", which didn't hold up as well as today's dockers, and tended to get shiny after a washing or two, with the short sleeved shirt worn with an open collar (Until the 80s that was the only sort of sort sleeved shirt we had. That one had no epaulets, rank was worn on the collar by officers and on the sleeves by enlisted). You can still wear that combination, although I'm not sure if you can wear the open collar, I've not been on an AF base in a long time, and then everyone was wearing green bags or BDUs. When our AF customers visited us at our facility, they usually wore the same, but occasionally they'd wear the blue pants, light blue shirt, but I think always with a tie. I hate ties with a passion!

102 posted on 06/02/2006 6:15:18 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: dakine
I have yet to wear/own a mess dress....

Neither have I, but most officers, at least those Captain and above, plus Academy graduates, both own and wear them. Usually at least a couple of times a year, as far as I can tell.

Heck they have so called Dining Ins and Dining Outs (which started out as Wing Dings during WW-II in England and grew out of similar RAF affairs), just so they can wear them. Then there is often a Military Ball, and a Christmas affair of some sort. But Reservists don't have all that stuff, maybe a Military Ball and/or a Christmas dance depending on location.

103 posted on 06/02/2006 6:19:46 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

No blue uniforms anywhere...the AF projects a "warrior" image now...BDUs or deserts everywhere now...


104 posted on 06/02/2006 6:27:42 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Paladin2b
If I could do it all over again, I would have joined the US Army, enlisted in May, 1986 after High School at age 18 or so. I always wanted to be in the motor pool: learn how cars work and other valuable skills like that. It's the Sgt Bilko in me, I think. :-)

I think that experience would have been very maturing for me, though I don't think I'd be a career guy. I would have left a few years later (how long was an enlisted run back then, 2 years, 4 years?) and gone to college after, a lot better off for that experience, I am certain.

Actually, I encourage any man or woman after High School to either join the military, or work in a job for about two years. I'm convinced that some real world experience sandwiched between High School and college would short circuit much of the BS that's spoon-fed to college students these days.
105 posted on 06/02/2006 6:39:10 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: GretchenM

Thanks....I had to call Mike to look and see...he really got a kick out of the ribbons.......his fav was *Never got a ribbon ribbon*.....LOL


106 posted on 06/02/2006 6:59:08 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Paladin2b

The most common uniform on an AF base has "Carrier" on the back.


107 posted on 06/02/2006 7:02:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: LongElegantLegs

Can you picture the fat guys in that uniform?;)


108 posted on 06/02/2006 7:48:10 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Mal, "Remember, we just want to scare him." Jayne, "Pain is scary!")
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To: Grannyx4

Thanks for that visual!!


109 posted on 06/02/2006 8:00:48 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Going armed to the terror of the public.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

How're ya doing?


110 posted on 06/02/2006 8:05:12 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Mal, "Remember, we just want to scare him." Jayne, "Pain is scary!")
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To: Grannyx4
Doing okay; I got the kids in bed, I'm just relaxing with a glass of bourbon bowl of cottage cheese. ;-)
111 posted on 06/02/2006 8:09:49 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Going armed to the terror of the public.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Your screen name puts me in mind of a former boyfriend who wanted to marry me (seriously). I need to say Seriously because of what follows.

When I asked him why he wanted to marry me, he said, in this order: Because I want to spend the rest of my life looking at your legs; you are so loving; and you're fun to be with.

Enjoyed your home page.


112 posted on 06/02/2006 8:56:27 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: GretchenM

Being a tall girl is such a hardship. ;-)
Glad you liked my homepage, I enjoyed yours as well!


113 posted on 06/02/2006 9:55:11 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Going armed to the terror of the public.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

I forgot to mention that I'm average height but I can empathize with your plight.

Thanks re the home page. =)


114 posted on 06/02/2006 11:09:23 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: ops33
It's not a First Sergeant star. The First Sergeant wears a diamond. The Chief shown in the photo is a Command Chief Master Sergeant, as indicated by the star.

Yeah, yeah you're right. And the Star with oak leaf clusters was CMSgt of the Air Force. My bad, but it's been a very long time...

115 posted on 06/03/2006 6:24:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: El Gato

This is better. So long as they keep the shoulder rank, that is......


116 posted on 06/03/2006 7:46:11 AM PDT by Al Simmons (Hillary Clinton is Stalin in a Dress)
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To: El Gato

Nodding, thanks for the info!


117 posted on 06/03/2006 2:19:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: LongElegantLegs

"The bag" is very comfortable - trouble is, only flyers get to wear them. I only know how comfy it is 'cause I got an orientation flight in a T-38 a couple of years ago. Yup, every time there's a change, they give us a drop-dead date for when we have to start wearing the new uniform. And the more rank you get, the sooner they expect you to convert to the new uniform. Apparently, it shows leadership or something...


118 posted on 06/05/2006 10:50:02 AM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: El Gato

"Reservists don't have all that stuff" - hmmm. I'm a reserve JAG O-6 and have had to wear my mess dress a couple times a year for the last 6 years (since I was an O-4). Maybe not in the unit world (although part of my time was as an SJA in a flying unit).


119 posted on 06/05/2006 10:55:16 AM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: Paladin2b

In 1955, the Air Force introduced its new summer uniform (above, getting a second look from conventionally dressed airmen at Mac Dill AFB, Fla.). In addition to the shorts and pith helmet, options included a bush jacket and long pants, but the look never really caught on.

This style never quite made it either, but the Post Office adopted it.

Don't think the senior officers' garrison cap of this pith helmet style would have looked good with "farts and darts" style scrambled eggs.

120 posted on 06/05/2006 11:02:58 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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