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To: Grannyx4; barefootscribe; TapTap

Um, ripping off the Marine Corps much? ;-)


4 posted on 06/02/2006 1:55:25 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Going armed to the terror of the public.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

The Army used that type of collar until the 20s/30s. It was phased out and has not come back. The Navy, I believe, still has a similar collared dress uniform. I had dress blues as an enlisted Marine and they were not all that comfortable all of the time. Having finished my career in the AF I am not sure that a lot of people would necessarily like it in terms of how it feels, but it does look kinda sharp.


20 posted on 06/02/2006 2:04:10 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: LongElegantLegs
Um, ripping off the Marine Corps much? ;-)

I wasn't aware that the Corps (God bless it) was the only military force on the planet to wear "choker" collars. Or dark blue. ;)
25 posted on 06/02/2006 2:06:43 PM PDT by Paladin2b
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To: LongElegantLegs

Well, ya know, with the new ABU looking so much like the Jarhead version, may as well go the whole route. I'm sick to death of uniform changes - this (the ABU) makes three utility uniforms in my 20 years, and this new service dress will be the third as well. Glad I'm not doing this on a captain's pay anymore!

Colonel, USAFR


56 posted on 06/02/2006 2:37:25 PM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: LongElegantLegs
Um, ripping off the Marine Corps much? ;-)

You judge.

General Billy Mitchell

Billy Mitchell style AF uniform prototype.

From a letter at the AF site:

The proposed Air Force Billy Mitchell uniform is actually a very near copy of the U.S. Army M1910 uniform worn at the very birth of military aviation. Not as you sir suppose, the U.S. Marine Corps P1914 uniform was copied from the Army M1910, and this is where your current dress blues are derived from. Sir, please note that the chest pockets are plain, not pleated, and there are no pointed cuffs. Towards the end of the 19th century, there was a strong European influence in military uniform design. The standing collar, red piping, and button cuffs on enlisted Marine uniforms today are in fact left over from this period of European Influence -- themselves copied from the armies of Europe. Although Marine legend holds that the quatrefoil was placed on the hat so officers could be recognized by sailors high in the rigging, scholarly research has shown the quatrefoil is actually only an embellishment added around the latter half of the 19th century -- cap piping of this sort was originally copied from the French. Marine tradition also holds that the standing collar on their dress uniform echoes the leather neck stocks worn by 18th century Marines, this however is also just a legend as standing collars of varying heights and widths on military dress uniforms were in vogue the greater parts of the 18th, 19th, and early part of the 20th centuries -- only having fallen out of general use by the U.S. military in 1926. Finally, the eight-point hat was being considered by the Air Force primarily because it was currently in production, could be easily and cheaply procured, and had a larger bill than the Army patrol cap. The Air Force wanted to test the sun-shielding properties of the bill. Incidentally, the eight-point hat also originally stemmed from European influence. This hat mimics the Polish tshapka -- a traditional military hat of the 18th and 19th centuries.

73 posted on 06/02/2006 3:53:00 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: LongElegantLegs

Its very old school. Actually members of the Air Corps as well as the rest of the U.S. Army wore uniforms like this at the turn of the century and through the 30s I believe. The color was different though.


81 posted on 06/02/2006 4:19:06 PM PDT by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
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To: LongElegantLegs

Can you picture the fat guys in that uniform?;)


108 posted on 06/02/2006 7:48:10 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Mal, "Remember, we just want to scare him." Jayne, "Pain is scary!")
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