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Victor Davis Hanson: Vietnam, After All? Formulaic warfare [Haditha]
NRO ^ | June 9, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/09/2006 4:59:46 AM PDT by Tolik

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1 posted on 06/09/2006 4:59:50 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out.

Links: FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson 
His website: http://victorhanson.com/     NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp

2 posted on 06/09/2006 5:00:35 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik
The enemy has no uniformed army, as was true of the North Vietnamese.
The enemy has no uniformed army, as was true of the North Vietnamese Viet Cong.
3 posted on 06/09/2006 5:03:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tolik



4 posted on 06/09/2006 5:04:11 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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Good one by VDH as always.


5 posted on 06/09/2006 5:12:59 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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...bombed downtown Belgrade ... to stop a genocide?

It's my recollection that the Milosevic-spawned "mass graves" turned out to be pretty much fiction. A few bodies here and there, but that's about it.

And unlike Iraq, with all the bleating about "Where's the WMD?", there was no complaining about "Where are the mass graves in Kosovo?".

Not that it's a big surprise; the president who bombed Serbia had a "D" after his name.

6 posted on 06/09/2006 5:21:37 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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I seem to remember that eight American soldiers died in the Carter-sponsored fiasco known as "Desert One" in Iran, although perhaps Goober the House Builder doesn't consider that this occurred "on his watch" as he never kept watch over anthing except his own political career.


7 posted on 06/09/2006 5:44:34 AM PDT by laconic
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I've got to say I'm a big fan of VDH, however he has been writing the same article for 1 year. He lacks the freshness of a Mark Steyn. VDH is stale.


8 posted on 06/09/2006 5:46:18 AM PDT by croak
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"For those who now associate the crimes of a few with an entire war effort, do any think that women and children were not maimed and worse when Bill Clinton—with no Senate approval and no effort to go to the U.N.—bombed downtown Belgrade on the righteous logic that the risk of collateral damage (500-1000 charred Serbian civilians?) was worth taking to stop a genocide? Do we remember that NATO planes mistakenly hit passenger trains, buses, an embassy, a rest home, a hospital, and apartment buildings?"

The above paragraph should be sent DAILY to every rag that prints any story defaming our military in Iraq.

We should demand that BlowJobBilly be held to the same standards as our brave Marines.


9 posted on 06/09/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by newcthem (When are our congress-men going to start getting paid in Pesos?)
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"Vietnam, My Lai, pullout, deadline, cutoff—all the old remembrances are returning, as the graying antiwar generation of the 1960s will not go quietly into the night."

Well Mr. Hanson, rest assured the graying vets that experienced the vile and treasonous effects of the "graying antiwar types won't go quietly into the night" either.

Should any of our young heroes be subjected to anywhere near the treatment we received upon their return, "WE" will be in the street with baseball bats returning swings for spits.

Never Again!!! Not on my watch anyway.

10 posted on 06/09/2006 5:53:01 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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" ... the graying antiwar generation of the 1960s will not go quietly into the night."


No, I'm afraid they will not.

Perhaps they are waiting for Walter Cronkite to lead them to Walhall, where they can play their mock combat.

One can only hope that Einherjar calls him home soon, so they may follow.



11 posted on 06/09/2006 6:02:13 AM PDT by G.Mason (Others have died for my freedom; now this is my mark ... Marine Corporal Jeffrey Starr, KIA 04-30-05)
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A war against Serbia is one of my rare disagreements with VDH.


12 posted on 06/09/2006 6:09:20 AM PDT by Tolik
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The Dem-Libs have made the choice that it is better for them if we leave Iraq with our tails between our legs because they would gain power. Conversely, it is bad for them if we stay in Iraq, institute a democratic government and leave as heroes. That would cause them to lose power. All of their BS is a rancid power grab.


13 posted on 06/09/2006 6:11:46 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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Being in academia (and having a few acquaintances in the Media and Hollywood) I know too many who think in the manner described in the article.

".....After all, to fight in Darfur is NOT to prance in and declare victory, but to send these same now-demonized Marines into a disease-infested sinkhole, where “civilians” kill and there is no real way to distinguish friend from foe....."

Good editorial.

14 posted on 06/09/2006 6:18:37 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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Your cartoon pic describes what the leftists' agenda is all about.


15 posted on 06/09/2006 7:00:23 AM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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Pookie's toon thread had it Wednesday and it is hearbreakingly accurate..


16 posted on 06/09/2006 7:09:28 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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Another one..Note what they are dancing on

17 posted on 06/09/2006 7:14:25 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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The Donk Dance. Disgusting.


18 posted on 06/09/2006 7:49:13 AM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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"Once we leave, the killing starts in earnest, not 20 or 30 per day, but wholesale slaughter of any Iraqis who taught school, or were clean shaven and wore Western dress, or fought to save Iraq. Millions of refugees flee to the West. Those who stay are killed or “reeducated.” Islamism, like Communism"


He is right. It could be like the killing fields of Cambodia all over again. The only difference is I don't think the looney left is still stupid enough to spit on our troops as they return home.
19 posted on 06/09/2006 8:00:17 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Tolik

Haditha = Incident at Racek part 2?


20 posted on 06/09/2006 9:29:32 AM PDT by Homer1
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