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Paleo-Conservatives Departing The Grand Old Party
Renew America ^ | 6/4/2006 | Bonnie Alba

Posted on 06/10/2006 6:20:18 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

Conservative Republicans held such hopes when Pres. Bush was heralded into office and the Republicans gained control of the Congress. That was then, this is now.

According to recent polls, conservative republicans are perplexed by the non-conservative actions of this president and the Republican-controlled Congress.

As I probed this latest confusion I found that I, and millions of other citizens, are f-o-s-s-i-l-s. According to Wikipedia Encyclopedia online, we are "Paleo" or "Old" conservatives. We are living fossils, 'about-to-become-extinct' hangers-on of the Grand Old Party which no longer appears to represent traditional conservatism.

The Republican Party in its essentials has been taken over by a mutation. Wikipedia describes this line of thought as "Neo" or "New Wave" conservatism. It's tenets are not really new, just enjoined by present-day politicians and citizens as the direction our nation should pursue. But it is contrary to many basic "Paleocon" principles.

"Paleocons" believe in the principles of limited government, limited spending and borrowing, limited intervention into citizens' lives, and states' rights. They also believe in restraint of foreign entanglement, a strong national defense and traditional family values

"Neocons" believe in an agressive foreign policy, empiric intervention in other nations to spread democracy, and global economic-trade policies. Weak on domestic policies, they lack emphasis on national issues. Their vision includes motivating our nation towards what I believe Pres. Bush's father referred to as the "New World Order." Include growth of government and overspending too.

Sound familiar? Now we know why the media refers to Pres. Bush and his administration as "Neocons." Many congressional Republicans belong in this catagory too.

The Republican-controlled Congress has acted and evolved in accordance with the mutant Neocon concept of overspending and overgrowing government, ignoring the burgeoning National and Public Debt approaching $40-60 trillion, most of it owned by foreign investors.

Recent crises and scandals such as social security, medicare, tax reform, earmarks, budget deficits, illegal aliens and gasoline prices gain the media spotlight for a few days or weeks. Then they seem to fade away, crammed together on the "we'll deal with you later"shelf. Always later.

My wake-up call came the morning I woke up to Howard Dean saying, "The first thing we want is tough border control, we have to do a much better job on our borders than George Bush has done." Though I knew this was blatant political rhetoric, it was shocking because I completely agreed with him.

Pres. Bush and the Congress have ignored domestic security of our homeland, borders and ports — until it was raised by the people! But if I agree with a liberal democrat, that does not a democrat make.

It is clear that the Grand Old Party has evolved and mutated which leaves a large conservative group, the Paleocons, scratching their heads and wondering what happened? I, for one, feel isolated from the GOP. The Party has entombed the Paleocons on the sidelines, bleached fossils, puzzled eyes peering at the GOP's total embrace of Neo-conservatism.

There is excited talk about Congress gearing up and acting on a few issues before the upcoming elections so they won't lose voters. I've got news for them. They have already lost citizens like this old fossil, who have reflected on the last five years of non-conservative actions.

Where's the limits on spending, limits on growth in government, adherence to the U.S. Constitution? Where's the traditional values and seeking the good of the nation as a whole instead of the corruptive influence of special interests? Yes, there are a few "Paleocons" in Congress but they are not listened to nor even heard amongst the clamor of "Neocons" and "Liberals" calling each other names.

I am a living fossil as are million of citizens, which brings me to the point. Where's the party that speaks to my conscience? I am past that retort: "Oh no! you must vote Republican or the Democrats will win!" Oh Please! I say — so what? Has it made any difference?

The Grand Old Party appears to have accepted this "Neocon" mutation, to move towards a world economy policy, open borders and the "New World Order." Why would I, this old fossil of white-bleached bones, vote for any republican candidate? No longer does the Republican Party speak to or for my "conscience."

As for this Paleocon, I am searching for a party that matches my "conscience." This is the one freedom citizens still have in this country — a citizen's privilege and responsibility to vote his or her "conscience." This old fossil takes this duty seriously.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
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To: Theodore R.
But most people cannot understand this line of thinking.

Sad, but how very true.

21 posted on 06/10/2006 6:45:06 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FerdieMurphy

The problem is that the social conservatives have put the party in power, and then watched the corporate conservatives get all their concerns acted on while the social cons are put on ignore until right before the next elections. Then come election time, the GOP waves the liberal boogeyman to try and drive us to the polls again.

This time it's just not working. Either satisfy us by November or you're gone.


22 posted on 06/10/2006 6:45:20 AM PDT by Dreagon
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To: FerdieMurphy
Why is it that "experts" who don't even know this site exists are the ones who are always talking stupid shiite about conservatives abandoning the Republican party?



Angry? You bet! Stay home or vote rat? Not a chance. Contrary to what that famous jackass alan simpson said about us being the " Stupid Party", we are the party who has stupid ( Simpson Mazzoli ) people like him to average out the rest of us. We are the smart party. the rat's is the stupid and corrupt party.
23 posted on 06/10/2006 6:45:36 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
The best place to start is probably with the Democrat party because it is so far into decline.

It certainly has the most socialists (communists) in its perverted ranks.

24 posted on 06/10/2006 6:46:33 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FerdieMurphy
An aggressive foreign policy is what provides for a strong national defense.

Note: aggressive means that, if a regime is doing something that threatens our security, we give the U.N. a few months to solve the problem. If that useless body does not solve it, we solve it.

25 posted on 06/10/2006 6:47:39 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Beagle8U
RE: your #7. Voting Republican has made a difference.

It has slowed down the rush towards socialism a bit. However, those brake pads are very thin.

26 posted on 06/10/2006 6:48:20 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: Republican Wildcat

Nothing like a straw man argument to put one's mind at ease. So I suppose the only "paleo" conservatives are Amish?


27 posted on 06/10/2006 6:49:03 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Dreagon

The Republican Congress is so weak and spineless that they can't even get rid of the Death Tax.

It's time to completely clean house and start all over again.


28 posted on 06/10/2006 6:50:11 AM PDT by colonel mosby
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To: FerdieMurphy; Peach
According to recent polls, conservative republicans are perplexed by the non-conservative actions of this president and the Republican-controlled Congress.

I for one am not perplexed or confused or bewildered. I AM PISSED! I know exactly what's going on. Most of our Republican leaders are to the left of me. And, IMHO, the only way this is gonna get fixed is through the ballot box.

29 posted on 06/10/2006 6:50:34 AM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: ecomcon

That is a seriously stupid threat.


30 posted on 06/10/2006 6:51:42 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: RedRover

Bingo.


31 posted on 06/10/2006 6:52:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Unam Sanctam
At least you'll be able to feel smug and superior.

Au contraire, mon ami.

(A bit of French lingo there to prove I bear no animosity towards little froggies.)

After eight exhausting years of the Dynamic Clinton Duo's perverted administration and despite the fact that I'd be gagging constantly, I'd vote for McCainiac before I'd vote for HRH Hitlery von Rottenham Klinton!

32 posted on 06/10/2006 6:53:05 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: frogjerk
"BUSH brought the fight to the terrorists...would this have happened with Kerry in the White House? Absolutely not. Would Roberts be Chief Justice and Alito an associate justice on SCOTUS? I don't think so..."

Don't forget that the Brady bill wouldn't have been allowed to expire, state funded abortion and queer marriage would now be the law of the land, with 2 Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg clones added to the USSC.

Taxes would have been raised several times by now, rather than being cut.
34 posted on 06/10/2006 6:55:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of STUPID for breakfast)
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To: MNJohnnie

You have ceased to make sense anymore.....actually you are entertaining....not much else i can say.


35 posted on 06/10/2006 6:56:27 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: jmaroneps37
The trite old sayings like:

"The Republicans could f--k up a steel ball with a rubber mallet," and

"Republicans continually snatch defeat from the jaws of victory." and

The DemocRATs crap in congress and sweep the mess under the rug held by obliging Republicans."

...somehow ring true these days.

36 posted on 06/10/2006 6:57:29 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: StrongBlackWoman

Johnnie has a severe case of rectitus and is usually ignored.


37 posted on 06/10/2006 7:00:56 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: Theodore R.
Pat Buchanan was the FIRST to say that the neocons had the long-range potential to destroy the GOP (even as it wins many elections). I think his first warnings pre-dated 1988. But most people cannot understand this line of thinking.

Aw ya had to go and ruin it. If Buchanan with his ethnic multi-culturalism insanity is a paleo then I'm no paleo.

38 posted on 06/10/2006 7:01:33 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: colonel mosby

"The Republican Congress is so weak and spineless that they can't even get rid of the Death Tax."

TWO Republicans voted to keep the death tax, TWO.

All the RATS voted to keep it. Now what were you saying about throwing out the Republicans?


39 posted on 06/10/2006 7:03:50 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of STUPID for breakfast)
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To: FerdieMurphy
"As for this Paleocon, I am searching for a party that matches my "conscience." This is the one freedom citizens still have in this country — a citizen's privilege and responsibility to vote his or her "conscience." This old fossil takes this duty seriously."

I too am searching for a party truly representative of my core beliefs and that party is not the GOP. I may continue to support individual GOP candidates, but, as for the state and national organization - no thank you. Furthermore, I have been swayed back to the fold too many times in the past with grand campaign rhetoric only to be betrayed. Again, no thank you - not one more time. If the result is no different with a Republican majority verses a Democratic one, I will at least be true to my personal integrity with my support of a third party. I just have to find that party!
40 posted on 06/10/2006 7:06:59 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (Conservatism is about promoting opportunity and Liberalism is about controlling outcome.)
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