Posted on 06/10/2006 3:41:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58
Isn't one man pummeling another with a baseball bat a crime otherwise?
This whole "hate crime" thing leaves me cold...
Punish the crime, and don't worry about trying to guess what was going through his puny reptilian brain...
No. It's a 'hate crime' because he said the same word rappers use ad nauseam in their "music"
so, I suppose it would have been a lesser crime had he kept his mouth shut or perhaps quoted some Shakespeare while he bludgeoned the poor fellow.
I'll be impressed when I hear of a minority prosecuted for a hate crime.
Not in New York. Andrea Peyser's been following this case, and another case where a bunch of black guys killed a Caucasian after announcing to the world [or at least some neutral witnesses], "Let's get the white guy", or words to that effect. No hate crime.
Gee and violence with things such as, "You gonna die now cracker" or "give me you M. F. car whitey" doesn't count as a hate crime.
In New York, except for hate crimes, you never have to prove motive, merely mens rea [was it intentional, depraved indifference, reckless, or negligent]. "Hate crimes" are the only crimes where motive enhances the sentence.
I guess if he used the "f word" he would have gotten a lighter sentence.
Hate crimes are speech crimes and thought crimes, great for North Korea and Cuba, but thoroughly un-American.
All crimes are hate crimes.
Interesting. It seems when a white man gets the tar beaten out of him by a black man, the prosecutors always go out of their way to say "robbery was the motive". I certainly don't condone what this white man did, but he is the victim of a political prosecution.
That said, use of the N-word does not a hate crime make, since use of "whitey" or "honky" doesn't make it a hate crime when the shoe's on the other foot.
If someone is being prosecuted for a hate crime,they are being punished for what they say,think, feel or believe!In other words if you don't conform to what society dictates your beliefs and thoughts to be,you will be persecuted and prosecuted.Sounds like nazi Germany to me.
So does this mean that crime the isn't predicated on "hate" CAN be tolerated?
To hell with a gay marriage amendment. How about an amemdment abolishing so called "hate crimes" and reaffirming that a crime, is a crime, is a crime, regardless if the offender says some naughty words during the act.
"Hate crimes are speech crimes and thought crimes, great for North Korea and Cuba, but thoroughly un-American."
Just like the liberal swine that saw to it that they were passed into law.
First of all, this kid is involved in two major assaults and he doesn't kill anybody. Come on, if he really had all this hate he should be able to murder somebody. And the guy himself admitted he was just rying to break the guy's legs and not his head. And his friend said it sounded like Barry Bonds (a black man) hitting a home run- if he had said Mark McGwyer that would be racist. And his victims are totally different. One is black and the other is a Sihk- I mean, does this guy hate everybody? I may not agree with his methods, but come on, just being arrested and tried for two major crimes should be enough to scare anyone straight.
...who was only there to...
"...Moore, who suffered a fractured skull, admitted that he and two friends were in the neighborhood trying to steal a car ..."
"..."Fat Nick," hurled the "n-word" during the attack and shouted, "We'll show you not to come and rob white boys."..."
What a hater.
hate crime= thought crime=thought police
Glenn Moore and company were robbing cars and were caught.
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