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To: RonHolzwarth

Some people have had experiences that they know better than to talk about with others who have not.

Yes, indeed. You are so right. I was going to say that it is a matter of faith, but when I saw your comment I knew that perhaps you too had experienced something that let you know. There aren't words to describe it.


22 posted on 06/10/2006 10:23:03 PM PDT by hardworking (Me? I just work to earn a living, pay taxes, educate my kids...so what could I possiblty know?)
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I know a guy who went to be by the bedside of a fellow who was dying of cancer. He had led the cancer patient to Christ, and he was on his last legs. Before becoming a Christian, he was a hardened skeptic, as was a good chunk of his family. Prior to death, with all his relatives around his bed, he became delirious. He spoke like he was seeing people he hadn't seen in years, saying hi to them and that he was happy to see them. He said at one point, "And who are you, little girl? You're my daughter?" He and his wife had been expecting a girl at one point, but she miscarried. And so on. He gave a vivid description of what he saw, then suddenly sat up in bed, pointed to his atheist sister, and said, "It's all true. You need to listen to Pastor C. He's right about all of it." Then he fell back to the pillow, and was gone.

My grandfather was in a care home. He talked for a week about going out with Mary, my grandmother, who'd passed a few years before. One evening, he got out his good shirt and slacks and laid them out for the next day. When he got up, he put them on. When the nurse commented on it, he told her simply that he was going out that day. When she said that she was going down the hall to get his meds, he replied, "Well, go ahead, but I'll be gone before you get back." She left to get his drugs, and when she returned, he was sitting in his chair, having left the building seconds before. Talk about an exit!

25 posted on 06/10/2006 10:34:36 PM PDT by Othniel (Allah: The Goat-Dung idol of millions......)
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To: hardworking; RonHolzwarth

3-1/2 years later, and I still ponder things I cannot put into words.


26 posted on 06/10/2006 10:36:15 PM PDT by Petruchio (* Censored *)
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To: hardworking

I had both an out-of-body-experience and a NDE when I was a teen after a car wreck. I didn't understand what they were at the time, other than inexplicable to me. I don't know whether what happened to me is proof of an afterlife, but it sure was proof to me of the supernatural or at least proof of another dimension.

The OBE was very real, the NDE in hindsight, was a little fuzzy and a little harder to remember and explain. I don't remember a light or a tunnnel, but do remember great peace and beutiful soothing music and being surrounded by beautiful fauna. Never before or since have I ever felt such a great feeling. I don't know where I was, but didn't want to leave.

I was in a coma for about two weeks and spent about 48 days in a hospital.


28 posted on 06/10/2006 10:40:39 PM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR & 24, way too much butt time)
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