Posted on 06/16/2006 9:13:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480
HPV VaccineAnother Deception of the Culture of Death
The big news recently is that the FDA has just approved a new vaccine supposedly to inoculate women against cervical cancer. Predictably, the media and health professionals are touting this as the greatest thing since the Salk vaccine, but they are also engaging in a propaganda campaign aimed at distorting the publics perception of it. I for one will stand against what I consider this newest marriage of the culture of death with junk science, and I believe we all should. In the next few weeks I intend to examine a number of aspects of this Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) vaccine for the benefit of parents who may some day be coerced into getting their kids vaccinated with it.
Let me start by pointing out a few basic elements of this vaccine and its service as a tool of the culture of death. First of all, did you ever wonder why all of a sudden we need a vaccine for just one sexually transmitted disease? Just to give you a little perspective: in the nineteen sixties, before the advent of the birth control pill and other forms of abortion-causing drugs, there were only three sexually transmitted diseases which at that time were known as venereal diseases, a name derived from Venus, the pagan goddess of sexual promiscuity. Because of the exponential increase in illicit sexual activity in the past four decades, the number of distinct sexually transmitted diseases has risen to over thirty, not to mention the multiple strains of the distinct diseases. The Human Papilloma Virus, for example, is just one sexually transmitted disease, but it has over 100 different strains! Only a small number of these strains actually lead to cancer and most of its victims dont know they have it and cure themselves over time.
Now, to put it into even clearer perspective: the much-touted HPV vaccine treats only two strains of HPV and two strains of genital warts. This is a tour-de-force against HPV isnt it?
The most wretched hypocrisy of the promoters of this vaccine, however, is that, rather than calling it a vaccine against a couple strains of one of the dozens of sexually transmitted diseases, they are calling it a vaccine against cervical cancer. Well, it will certainly protect some women from cervical cancer in the future but thats not the point. The point is that there are overwhelming numbers of diseases, strains and even cancers that this vaccine does not protect from, all of which are gotten by the very same sexual act. Thinking that this vaccine gives blanket protection against cervical cancer (which of course is how its perceived because that is how its being promoted) is like believing that thirty people jumping out of the same airplane will all be protected because one of them is wearing a parachute.
This HPV vaccine, my friends, is a classic case of the culture of death playing fast and loose with peoples lives. They use junk science to hook our terribly un-reflective culture on a promise that will benefit only a miniscule portion of the population, and then the false perception of security surrounding their newest ruse hooks everyone else into behaviors and lifestyles that perpetuate the damage and decay our decency.
Dont fall for it because pretty soon they will be forcing youand your kidsto drink their potions to the dregs.
Same thing happened to me with my pediatric group about 8 years ago. This was after several of the doc's in the practice agreed with my decision to NOT vaccinate.
The Soviet Union had a massive program to develop smallpox as a biological weapon. At one time they had a stockpile of 20 tons of the most lethal varieties of smallpox. They also developed special ICBM warheads to deliver it. The Soviets continued vaccinating their population against smallpox in the 1980's even after smallpox had been "erradicated".
Thank you for your post. As you can see, the "science at any cost" crowd came out of the woodwork on this thread.
I visited with our original pediatrician before my daughter was born, and she assured me she was ok, with the decision to not vaccinate - afterwards it became massive scare tactics - I fired her. The next one was fabulous - he (not grudgingly) several times told me how wonderfully healthy my child was - but he also mentioned he appreciated the extent that I had done research on it.
Here's the other funny thing I've noticed. The Internet is a wonderful place to do research, unless you're researching vaccinations then suddenly it is a sneer you're met with in any discussions with those that oppose your viewpoint.
I would rather be protected against two strains then open to all of them. Just because it is being advertised one way doesn't mean that the doctor won't make clear the limitations when someone gets a shot.
I have not seen one report or claim by the manufacturer where it did not state it is a vaccine for HPV which can cause cervical cancer.
I've seen Headlines blare the "cervical cancer cure" line, but not one article where in the text the truth wasn't there.
And the press does that all the time with everything in terms of using teasing and misrepresentative headlines.
If this is an effective vaccine against the types of HPV known to cause cervical cancer, (certainly HPV is not the ONLY cause of cervical cancer) which it appears to be then what the heck is the problem?
I fail to see the original posters logic for objection.. other than perhaps he feels those that engage in sexual activity deserve the wrath of god and should be offered no protection... I really can't follow the original authors logic or reasoning at all.
You're playing both sides of the fence on this one - How do we know that the original smallpox vaccine would even protect against a manufactured epidemic? Who knows how many different variations there are? After a stockpile is sitting there for a length of time, who knows what a mutated version does?
Just because it is being advertised one way doesn't mean that the doctor won't make clear the limitations when someone gets a shot.
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Have you been to a doctor lately? The doctor's say "safe sex" is with a condom, even though they will admit that HPV is passed in spite of condoms. The doctor's will most certainly not explain it.
yep, agree with the sneer part.
took a little searching and waiting but the pediatrician I ended up with was of the point of view of pro-vaccination (although using the mercury free shots) however if parents did not consent, then she was perfectly fine with it.
The only thing she ever asked me to do was initial in the children's medical records that she and I discussed both the benefits and risks of vaccination.
And she also comments on how healthy the kids are as well on visits.
I fail to see the original posters logic for objection.. other than perhaps he feels those that engage in sexual activity deserve the wrath of god and should be offered no protection... I really can't follow the original authors logic or reasoning at all.
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That's the second time I've seen this on the thread. It's absurd to think that those who engage in sexual activity deserve the wrath of God. What is equally absurd is advertising that this vaccination will prevent cervical cancer, when it most certainly not. I haven't done enough study on cervical cancer, I have a feeling though - that it's not cancer in the way it's typically defined.
Excellent point.
I had to jump through insanely stupid hoops to get my children exemptions from the state-mandated hepatitis-B vaccination.
Hepatitis-B, like AIDS, is VERY hard to contract -- unless you engage in very risky behavior. (Or if you work in certain medical professions where you are often exposed to blood.)
It just struck me as ridiculous to force children to be vaccinated for hep-B, particularly when vaccines carry some risk in themselves.
In dogs and cats, for example, vaccinations can lead to cancerous growths at the site of the injections.
(No, I'm not advocating that dogs or cats or humans get NO vaccinations whatsoever; but I think parents should have the right to make an informed choice when it comes to vaccines for diseases such as hep-B, HPV, and AIDS.)
I'm not playing both sides of the fence. I favor mandatory vaccination against only those diseases that are contagious through casual contact or from contact with infectious bodily fluids. I don't think it should be necessary to be vaccinated against diseases spread through sexual contact in order to attend school.
But often even virtuous women are hypocritcal on this issue. They are often attracted to men who aren't virtuous.
That is like the flu vaccine that's so highly promoted each year. There are hundreds if not thousands of different flu strains. Each year, the scientists get together and come up with the best guess at what strain will break out and then come up with an appropriate vaccine. The problem is that they cannot know for sure which flu strain will, in fact, break out. Therefore their protection is solely dependent on a scientific guess.
No doubt, it will work if the right strain is picked. But not sure how successful they are. Anyone have stats on that?
In addition, I've known many who have had the flu vaccine and then get a full blown case of the flu shortly after. The response from the doc is usually that the patient must have had the virus prior to getting the shot and they just missed it. I've heard the same story told to parents whose children end up with chicken pox after recieving the vaccination.
I think its far more likely in the case of the flu that the immune system becomes compromised due to the foreign substances and predisposes the person to get the infection that it was trying to prevent. With chicken pox, I believe an already compromised immune system may not be able to handle the varicella virus and the disease manifests as a result.
You can control your behavior, but not that of your spouse. Would you bet your daughter's life on the past and future sexual behavior of your son-in-law? It goes beyond "my baby would never...". Even among devout Christians, how many have faltered or have come to Jesus after a wild youth. Not to mention, as some have, the chance of a woman being raped during her lifetime.
People don't get married at 20 anymore, so that with good parental supervision you can expect that the majority will remain virgins until their wedding day. Today, the average groom is 27, and the average bride is 25. That's a lot of years where a young person has a chance to backslide into sin, and not only get infected with HPV but then pass on the virus to an unwitting, even virginal, spouse.
"It just struck me as ridiculous to force children to be vaccinated for hep-B, particularly when vaccines carry some risk in themselves."
Yes, that's the issue -- the cost-benefit ratio. Some vaccines they can be fairly dangerous, like smallpox. Others are not particularly dangerous. It's not so cut and dried like many people on this thread believe.
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