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HIV-positive man sentenced to 8 years for molesting two boys (IN)
The News-Sentinel (Fort Wayne , IN) ^ | June 18, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/18/2006 3:59:46 PM PDT by DBeers

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To: DBeers
had performed sex acts on the boys as a "learning" and "educational" experience for the children, court documents said.

Now now, if only we support same-sex marriage and homo adoption then this guy wouldn't have caught HIV and would also then be able to practice his 'debauchery' in the guise of teaching and education on his own little boys. Is not the creed "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE".

22 posted on 06/18/2006 4:50:51 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: A Troop 1-14 Cav

It sounds like attempted murder to me...and in time it may, sadly, turn into actual murder.


23 posted on 06/18/2006 4:52:53 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Oklahoma recently became the fifth state to allow the death penalty for certain sex crimes, if they are convicted twice (which I assume means convicted on two counts)of rape, sodomy or lewd molestation involving children under 14 can face the death penalty.


24 posted on 06/18/2006 4:55:55 PM PDT by old republic
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They should have charged Mr. Lehner for attempted murder because he has HIV. If down the road, the children contract AIDS and die then he should be charged with murder.
25 posted on 06/18/2006 5:06:19 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: DBeers
THIS crime deserves cruel and unusual punishment!!
Vlad "Tepes" (the impailer) Dracula (1431 - 1476)

26 posted on 06/18/2006 5:06:41 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DemforBush
What a sick SOB...

Where's your compassion? /sar

I would be perfectly fine with the death penalty in cases like this.

27 posted on 06/18/2006 5:09:49 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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There are states that have law on the books (such as California and New York) if you give someone HIV without notifying them and without the person can be charged with attempted murder. Mr. Lehner did not notify these boys about his HIV status. So he could be charged with attempted murder and it could add to his sentence.
28 posted on 06/18/2006 5:14:10 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: DBeers

"He later told police he had been molested as a child and never told anyone, and had performed sex acts on the boys as a "learning" and "educational" experience for the children, court documents said."

This freak should be turned over to the NRA as a target for target practice for budding gun enthusiasts. For the educational aspect of course


29 posted on 06/18/2006 5:15:48 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Sure the left loves the military, whenever they can be used as a political football)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Wrong...South Carolina and Oklahoma have made molesting children a capital offense. I hope many more states will be following them. These evil SOBs should be put down in the same way we do mad dogs.


30 posted on 06/18/2006 5:17:50 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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If an HIV positive gives HIV without the other person knowing the status can be charged with attempted murder.

This is better.
31 posted on 06/18/2006 5:18:42 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Kakaze
Total probable time behind bars approximately 2.75 years.

Hey he's only 34 so if he gets out at 37 he'll have time to work his 'educational etiquette' on other victims so IF these young boys luckily escape without contracting the HIV virus there are many others out there that he could 'prey' on and maybe eventually give it to them before he dies all thanks to this buffoon Magistrate Coffey.

32 posted on 06/18/2006 5:26:53 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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The US Approach: “HIV Exposure” or “Criminal Transmission” Laws

23 US states have passed laws specifically criminalizing certain behaviour by people with HIV. Some states make it a crime not to disclose HIV-positive status before engaging in certain activities. In most of these states, taking precautions to prevent transmission (such as using a condom) does not protect against criminal liability. Other states criminalize certain legal acts (such as donating blood) if done by an HIV-positive person, or if done simply by someone belonging to a “high risk group.” Finally, some states have imposed harsher sentences for illegal acts (such as prostitution) if the offender is HIV-positive. Many states have adopted more than one of these approaches. In most cases, the prosecution only has to prove the prohibited behaviour took place, and need not prove HIV was actually transmitted or even that the accused knew the conduct could transmit the virus.
33 posted on 06/18/2006 5:37:21 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: DBeers

Prayers that the young biys do NOT have HIV.


34 posted on 06/18/2006 6:05:34 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: DBeers

Yet another example of the effects of diversity, tolerance, the big tent, room at the table, dialogue, debate, discussion, different points of view, human dignity, equality. This illustrates one of the reasons why society and the law at one time suppressed these people. I guess people will have to relive history. In the meantime great damage will be inflicted upon the innocent. People had better start considering the doctrine of self help. The present 'leadership' only encourages them in their quest for "Rights!" Now one can see what they mean by "Rights."


35 posted on 06/18/2006 6:14:23 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Okay, so lets sum up the situation here. We have a gay man, two young boys who have been molested by this gay man (although he claims he was wanting to do some 'other' guy), this gay man was molested as a child by another gay man.

I'm pretty sure there will be some spinmeister on TV explaining how there is no connection between child molestation and homosexuality and how homosexuality is a 'choice' and just overwhelmingly coincidental to childhood sexual abuse and not actually related to it. Blah, Blah, Blah.

36 posted on 06/18/2006 6:43:42 PM PDT by bpjam (If we take 12M Mexicans, they have to take Kennedy & McCain!)
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To: DemforBush

yet GLSEN puts the GSA clubs in the schools just for this exact "educational experience".

THAT is really sick.


37 posted on 06/18/2006 6:46:38 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tbird5

The big SECRET is that YES most homosexuals have been abused as children. It is a learned behavior. The priests who were accused of molesting boys said that they were molested as children.

Homosexuality is learned and that is why the homosexuals want to control the curriculum in school. The younger the child, the easier they are to brainwash.


38 posted on 06/18/2006 7:40:06 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: DBeers
...pleading guilty to child molesting and vicarious sexual gratification

I am not condoning what he did - he should die in jail, but acts, not thoughts or 'gratification' should be the crime. This (second part) is a thought crime charge.

39 posted on 06/18/2006 8:20:15 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: DBeers

Castrate him and then give him 8 years. Castration would stop a lot of these sick SOB's.


40 posted on 06/18/2006 8:30:41 PM PDT by auggy ( http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML)
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