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"A rose by any other name, would smell as sw-(don't say it!)"
25-June-2006 | Ron Pickrell

Posted on 06/25/2006 8:58:23 AM PDT by pickrell

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1 posted on 06/25/2006 8:58:30 AM PDT by pickrell
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A small leaf included in a pot of tea brings a delightful surprise, in the form of a mild, pleasant sweetness with no aftertaste. (Of course, I have discovered that if I make tea immediately after bass fishing, there sometimes mysteriously occurs a slight aftertaste of minnows. I haven't worked out why, yet, but research is continuing.)

Are you absent-mindedly munching on the minnows while waiting for Ol' Roy to bite?

2 posted on 06/25/2006 9:02:57 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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Stevia on the web.....

Large doses (30-50 grams) may have a laxative effect.

Avoid anyone you see eating eggs, smoking, and drinking coffee sweetened with it...

3 posted on 06/25/2006 9:11:01 AM PDT by edpc
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To: pickrell
Used it this morning to sweeten my tea. I'm diabetic and I love Stevia.
4 posted on 06/25/2006 9:13:56 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pickrell

I have some but I didn't like it the first time I tried it. I thought it had an after taste. Maybe I need to give it a second chance.


5 posted on 06/25/2006 9:15:08 AM PDT by tsmith130
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I have used Stevia for a while now. I used the drops first, but now they make the little packets and I like those more. I drink tea and koolaid and use some of the packets. It does cut down on sugar use and it doesn't have an after taste.....
6 posted on 06/25/2006 9:17:37 AM PDT by marmar (Although, I may look different then you....my blood still runs....RED, WHITE, @ BLUE.)
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(Of course, I have discovered that if I make tea immediately after bass fishing, there sometimes mysteriously occurs a slight aftertaste of minnows. I haven't worked out why, yet, but research is continuing.)

Try washing your hands.

7 posted on 06/25/2006 9:28:26 AM PDT by EricT. (CA conservatives only serve to inflate the number of electoral votes won by the Dems.)
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To: tsmith130
I have some but I didn't like it the first time I tried it. I thought it had an after taste.

Me too.. Sister introduced me to a few packets and that was my discovery.

8 posted on 06/25/2006 9:33:45 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: pickrell

I've used Stevia for years now...a quarter of a teaspoon of Stevia takes the place of a full teaspoon of sugar. And in many cases tastes better.

There are a few drawbacks...it is a bit expensive (but less so than say, Splenda) and I have to buy it at the nutty crunchy liberal foods market.

For anyone who must (or wants to) avoid sugar, this is a must to try.


9 posted on 06/25/2006 9:34:23 AM PDT by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% of MA voters who voted for GWB)
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To: EricT.
Try washing your hands.

Or better yet, your moustache.

10 posted on 06/25/2006 9:42:59 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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I was afraid to ask what else he uses that minnow bucket for...
11 posted on 06/25/2006 9:45:06 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: edpc
Considering it's a powder and 1/2 tsp. is as sweet as 1/3 c. sugar, it would be pretty darn hard for someone to consume 30-50 g. of it.

I buy mine at steviasmart.com

Other than a licoricey aftertaste, which varies by brand, and the fact that it chemically cannot replicate sugar's function in baking, it's great stuff.

12 posted on 06/25/2006 9:52:55 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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Maybe:

Stevia, which is about 100 times sweeter than sugar, is obtained from a shrub (yerba dulce) that grow in Brazil and Paraguay. The name of the actual sweet chemical is stevioside. The health-food industry advocates stevia extract as a safe alternative to synthetic sweeteners, like saccharin, aspartame, and sucralose. It is said to be widely used in Japan and several other countries. However, just because a substance is natural, does not mean that it is safe.

Maybe not:

The U.S. FDA has rejected stevia (or stevioside) for use as a food additive. Likewise, Canada has not approved stevia, and a European Community scientific panel declared that stevia is unacceptable for use in food. Studies found that high dosages fed to rats caused reduced sperm production and an increase in cell proliferation in their testicles, which could cause infertility or other problems. When pregnant hamsters were fed large amounts of a derivative of stevioside called steviol, they had fewer and smaller offspring. In the laboratory, steviol can be converted into a mutagenic compound, which may promote cancer by causing mutations in the cells genetic material (DNA). In addition, very large amounts of stevioside can interfere with the absorption of carbohydrates in animals and disrupt the conversion of food into energy within cells. In sum, small amounts of stevia are probably safe, but it is inappropriate to endorse wide use of this sweetener.

I trust CSPI, where this info came from. Just cause it's natural doesn't mean it's safe. And the vast conspiracy thing makes everyone a crook to be believed. I talked to the chief pharmacist for Great Earth vitamins about sucralose and he feels it is unquetionably safe. 2 cents a pack at wherehouse stores. Tastes like sugar to me.


13 posted on 06/25/2006 2:17:01 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
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Although sucralose in unquestionably safe, it does lead to a higher rate of uncorrected misspellings by users.


14 posted on 06/25/2006 2:19:35 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
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A great place to start, if I have sparked any curiousity, is to Google "Stevia...

Ironic that you talk about thought police and then recommend using google. I don't need no stinking google. Ask.com. Just as useful and definitely doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth.

15 posted on 06/25/2006 2:35:38 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
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And if you are comfortable with relying on Japan's research, I've got a great drug for a good night's sleep called "thalidomide."


16 posted on 06/25/2006 2:38:01 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
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I've researched Stevia for about 5 years, as well as all the other natural and man-made options available.

Let me put it this way: Stevia-bashing is the "global warming" of the nutrition community. Other than weight loss miracle cures, there is no other holy grail as sought after as a safe sugar alternative. When the average person consumes about 150 lbs. of sugar a year, do not think there aren't huge sugar and sweetener interests trying to protect their lucrative markets! It's likely the most addictive and toxic legal substance hyumans put in our bodies. A calorie-free sweetener that most people could grow in their back yard is a death knell for them.

BTW, sucralose - Splenda - gives me terrible gastronomic distress and an odd sensation of lightheadedness. I cannot use it, or any sugar alcohol (mannitol, sorbitol, maltitol, erythritol, etc.) without feeling awful.

17 posted on 06/25/2006 3:14:48 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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"...Let me put it this way: Stevia-bashing is the "global warming" of the nutrition community..."

I agree. We are of course a few years too early to begin this debate, but why wait? The vested interests behind the embargo seem to have successfully obscured the fact that an estimated minimum of 10 million Japanese, over the course of 20 years of stevia use, have used the product without a single product-related problem being reported, in probably the largest and most thorough test grouping ever accomplished. That actually equates to some 200 million subject-test-years of data! When added to the additional millions in South America, Israel, Asia, Australia and a number of other "study groups" of satisfied stevia-using countries- I know of no other product that comes even close to the GRAS, or "generally regarded as safe", textbook definition of a food product.

The idea is that certain components of the stevioside, when used in massive doses, caused harmful effects in certain bacteria. Oddly, my penicillin prescription for strep throat a few years back, (probably from not washing my hands after eating my minnows :-)!), has an even more lethal effect on bacteria.

But actual scientific method seems to have been left at the station on this train. This is a contest of raw political power. It was of course coincidence that the FDA official who decided to ban stevia, later accepted a very high paying job with the company having the most to lose if stevia became accepted.

What concerns me more... is that other horrendously deadly food additive which is made up of equal parts of chlorine,(a deadly gas), and sodium, an unstable and equally dangerous metal, and found in increasing numbers of foods. Ban NaCl before it melts the polar ice-caps!

But mentioning that would just rub salt into the wounds of the stevia-bashers.

18 posted on 06/25/2006 6:04:29 PM PDT by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)
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To: Sisku Hanne

Sugar alcohol affects me the same way if I eat too much at one sitting. But Splenda? Much better taste than Stevia and I've never heard of or experienced a laxative effect.


19 posted on 06/25/2006 6:17:59 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (My head hurts.)
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LOLOL! ;-)

Do you use any other natural low-glycemic sweeteners? Lo Haun? Agave Nectar? Brown Rice Syrup?

20 posted on 06/25/2006 6:24:05 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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