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Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay War-Crimes Trials (SCOTUS rules against President)
Fox News & AP ^ | June 29, 2006

Posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:53 AM PDT by pabianice

Edited on 06/29/2006 7:41:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Breaking...


Update:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies.

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Usama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: mware
Lets see them go before the American people and tell them these terrorists are entitled to the same rights as American Citizens. After all isn't it them who are harping about the President of Iraq and his plan to grant amnesty for people who were attacked our troops.

You're absolutely right. Let them try and pull that crap.

521 posted on 06/29/2006 8:55:28 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: dotnetfellow
So? Why couldn't he rule on his own decision? He's the Chief Justice for petes sake.

I see the dim rat libs have managed to put one over on the pubbies once again visa vie the courts.

It wouldn't have made a difference. Is 5-3 any worse than 5-4? You still lose.

522 posted on 06/29/2006 8:55:46 AM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: NinoFan
[Justice Thomas read his dissent from the bench - the first time he has EVER done that. He must be really PO'd.]

Knowing that, I have even more respect for Justice Thomas. Good for him and shame on the media who tried to sabotage him.
523 posted on 06/29/2006 8:55:55 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: mware

This will actually be good for the Republicans because once they get a proposal on the congressional floors for a vote it will put the Rats on record of whether they are for a military tribunal for terrorist or traitors of America.


524 posted on 06/29/2006 8:56:01 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: jamiefoxer
"I said that I thought SCOTUS was correct in ruling the President of the United States does not have unlimited authority to suspend our rule of law and due process rights,"

Our rule of law has never applied to prisoners of war, captured in the heat of battle.
Next you are going to tell us the Nuremberg trials should have been held in New York under American law too, no?
You are talking nonsense.
525 posted on 06/29/2006 8:56:28 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: IrishRainy

I didn't say "specially nicely", I said treat them according to the law. As I would want to be treated. Isn't that the Golden Rule, after all?

I find it amusing to see that at the first moment of a challenge to our country's values, most "super patriots" are willing to jettison what makes us different from other countries and become dictatorship-accepting drones.

No special treatment needed...if Al-Qaeda, try them, prove they are guilty, and IF guilty, IMPRISON. If POW's from Afghanistan or Iraq, hold them until the wars are over (according to whatever legal standards we follow and that are in conjuction with international legal standards on POWs), and then release them at the end of the war.

Special treatment there?


526 posted on 06/29/2006 8:56:47 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer
There are no POW's in the war on terror.

Go back to DU already.

527 posted on 06/29/2006 8:57:14 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: IMRight

So it is your view that these were not war crimes?


528 posted on 06/29/2006 8:58:11 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: mware

Help me out... just got here and i'm not getting it.

So our troops don't take prisoners now; do the terrorists (non-uniformed combatants), now have Geneva protections; we send the prisoners where, to do what?.


529 posted on 06/29/2006 8:58:50 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names.)
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Like others have said this is actually pretty good for the President. Now the RATS will have to vote for or against these tribunals in Congress for these terrorists.


530 posted on 06/29/2006 8:58:58 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: tobyhill
This will actually be good for the Republicans because once they get a proposal on the congressional floors for a vote it will put the Rats on record of whether they are for a military tribunal for terrorist or traitors of America.

BINGO

531 posted on 06/29/2006 8:59:38 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I am disappointed...it's a huge stain on our legal system, our values, and what we claim to stand for....

We should give them all trials, and seperate the Al-Qaeda ones from Taliban or Iraqi insurgnets ones.

Al-Qaeda ones are guilty of international war crimes for terrorism and other non-state, illegal warfare attacks. IMPRISON them IF PROVEN guilty in a court of law.

Iraqi Insurgents or taliban Resistance fighters are entitled to POW status (just like our soldiers are), and should be held according to the Geneva Conventions, and then released after the end of our conflicts with their countries.

That's the letter of the law, folks. Either we stand up for our laws and our commitments to international law, or we start making it up as we go...in which case, we're no different than any other non-law-abiding regime. This is not a conservative or liberal position or issue...it's a question of what is legally mandated that we do.


532 posted on 06/29/2006 8:59:49 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: Bikers4Bush
From now on we should kill them all where they stand.

Sure would solve a bunch of problems in one.

533 posted on 06/29/2006 9:00:32 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: jamiefoxer

[Where did I say I align myself with Al-Qaeda and 9/11 in those statements?]

You didn't have to, you just signed up today...


534 posted on 06/29/2006 9:00:36 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: pabianice; P-Marlowe; jude24; blue-duncan

So what.

He can't try them.

They didn't say he has to release them. They didn't say he has to close Guantanamo.

All they said was that he can't order war crimes trials. Big deal.


535 posted on 06/29/2006 9:00:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
"They have not yet lost in November."

They will.
They lost their momentum over a month ago.
We have regained our mojo at just the right time
Heck even the biased "poll numbers" from the drive-by media have been going up quite a bit over the past 4 weeks.
536 posted on 06/29/2006 9:01:03 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: jamiefoxer

what is a legal studies major? an undergraduate majoring in PRELAW?


537 posted on 06/29/2006 9:01:33 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: AliVeritas
Ali, actually they put Congress is an interesting position.

They stated that if the Executive Branch had premission from Congress, they could be held for military tribunals. They also said that these terrorist can be held until the end of the war.

538 posted on 06/29/2006 9:01:47 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Jameison

that likely explains why Sandy Day O'Connor is running around the country pouting and whining about the political debate "infringing on judicial independence"...I think the light they see at the end of their tunnel is an oncoming train.


539 posted on 06/29/2006 9:02:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: COEXERJ145; goldstategop

A bit of both, actually... the quote is Jackson; Taney did rule against Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus in MD.

Lincoln simply ignored the USSC on this one; something I pray Bush 43 would seriously consider doing in this case.


540 posted on 06/29/2006 9:02:14 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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