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The Vatican Confronts Islam
Front Page Magazine ^ | 05 July 2006 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 07/05/2006 4:54:43 AM PDT by unionblue83

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To: prairiebreeze

I'm delighted the Vatican is doing/saying this, prairie. Very good news.


141 posted on 07/07/2006 4:48:07 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 20, 2005

In choosing Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger to succeed Pope John Paul II as Pope Benedict XVI, the Catholic Church has cast a vote for the survival of Europe and the West. “Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century,” historian Bernard Lewis predicted not long ago; however, judging from the writings of the new Pope, he is not likely to be sanguine about this transition. For one thing, the new Pope seems to be aware of the grave danger Europeans face: he has called upon Europe to recover its Christian roots “if it truly wants to survive.”

For while his predecessor kissed the Qur’an and pursued a consistent line of conciliation toward the Islamic world, despite numerous provocations and attacks against Catholics in Muslim countries, the new Pope Benedict XVI, while no less charitable, has been a bit more forthcoming about the reality of how Islam challenges the Catholic Church, Christianity, and even the post-Christian West. He has spoken up for the rights of converts from Islam to Christianity, who live under a death sentence in Islamic countries and increasingly live in fear even in the West. He has even spoken approvingly of Christians proselytizing Muslims — a practice that enrages Muslims and is against the law in many Islamic countries...

GO BENEDICT!

Ratzinger is a Bavarian...those southern germans are tough!


142 posted on 07/07/2006 5:21:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

"The gift of a Koran specifically is considered by Muslims a call to convert to Islam which is the real "gift"."

Pope John Paul II obviously did not know this.

Pope John Paul II was a human being, and fallible, like all human beings. Only God is infallible.

But Pope John Paul II was a great man, and God granted miracles through Pope John Paul II, even while the Pope was still alive.


143 posted on 07/07/2006 6:11:25 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: unionblue83

Face it, Islam is an insane religion from the 12th century.
They are animals.
They are like fowl infected with bird flu virus.
Hmmmm.......


144 posted on 07/07/2006 8:38:12 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: Sun
Pope John Paul II obviously did not know this.

There is really no excuse for any theologian.
It is just an unfortunate image and not one to be remembered by.
145 posted on 07/07/2006 8:56:59 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

"..and not one to be remembered by"

I remember Pope John Paul II as a great man, who together with President Reagan, ended Communism, but also a human man.


146 posted on 07/08/2006 1:17:14 AM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: Sun; Fred Nerks

The picture was just mentioned on C2C and called a "blasphemy" because of the Koran's denial of the divinity of Jesus in chapter 2.


147 posted on 07/11/2006 12:20:48 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I still can't believe he did that...but I do recall thinking, there's NO WAY he would have, had he READ the @#*&!% thing!


148 posted on 07/11/2006 3:35:31 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

"The picture was just mentioned on C2C and called a "blasphemy" because of the Koran's denial of the divinity of Jesus in chapter 2."

Obviously, Pope John Paul II, a man who God used for miracles - even while he was alive - did not read the Koran. I've never read the Koran, either. Have you?

btw, what's C2C?


149 posted on 07/11/2006 11:02:12 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: Sun
I've never read the Koran, either. Have you?

I have been researching the Koran and hadith for several years. And for interpretation I go to the Tafsir ibn Kathir. See post #7 for a distillation of what I've found. I have been posting it to most threads on Islam for some time. I don't concern myself much with the Five Pillars or various rituals. My interest is in Islam's points of contact with others and its methods of subversion and internal control. If the Pope read nothing more than that he would have a clear view on how to deal with Islam.
150 posted on 07/11/2006 11:49:49 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Sun

Oh, C2C is Coast to Coast AM, Art Bell and George Noory. I affectionately call them the Wackos. But they have a following and sometimes interview rational people.


151 posted on 07/11/2006 11:58:21 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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