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To: liberallarry
the Palestinians, who've thought of that land as a home for a thousand years

It's important to remember that Arabs did not begin to call themselves "Palestinians" until after 1948. The "Palestine Liberation Organization" was established in 1964--before the so-called occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

It's important to remember that the Paleoswineans always trot out this same old "retreat to the pre-1967 lines and give us a 'Right of Return'" when they are getting their butts whipped.

15 posted on 07/11/2006 8:58:28 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 77-78)
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To: Alouette

That's a very critical point, Alouette. There are two issues for the Palestinian arabs: the right to their own state, and the right to live in peace.

The fact is that they never, ever had a state. There never was an arab state of Palestine (or by any other name); it always was under the jurisdiction of someone else. Therefore, Israel's sovereignty is nothing new.

As to the right to live in peace, they have been offered this right repeatedly and have spurned it just as often. Even today, if they said that they wanted to live in peace in Israel and pledged to abandon any efforts to undermine the state of Israel, I have no doubt that the Israeli government would welcome them with open arms.

In my opinion, it is important to recognize that most of these people are officially called "refugees" under international law. Because they are "refugees" it means that they are not living in their permanent homes (how can you be a refugee in your own home?). I'll repeat that: Because they are "refugees" it means that they are not living in their permanent homes (how can you be a refugee in your own home?).

That being the case, I do not believe that Israel will live in peace until the refugees are given a permanent home. I think that it is incument upon arab countries such as Syria, Lebanon, Jordan to open their borders and accept the Palestinian arabs who are refugees. In addition, I believe that they should open their borders to those arabs who currently live west of the Jordan River but would be uncomfortable living under Israeli sovereignty.

Problem solved.


16 posted on 07/11/2006 9:20:10 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Alouette
It's important to remember that Arabs did not begin to call themselves "Palestinians" until after 1948.

They thought of themselves as Muslims and Arabs and of Palestine as a Muslim land under Ottoman control. Modern Middle-Eastern states are entirely a creation of the French and English.

It's important to remember that the Paleoswineans always trot out this same old "retreat to the pre-1967 lines and give us a 'Right of Return'" when they are getting their butts whipped.

What else do you expect them to say? That's always been their position and they are consistant in asserting it. Do you expect them to change it because the sons of pigs and monkeys demand it?

17 posted on 07/11/2006 9:22:31 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Alouette
"It's important to remember that Arabs did not begin to call themselves "Palestinians" until after 1948. The "Palestine Liberation Organization" was established in 1964--before the so-called occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. It's important to remember that the Paleoswineans always trot out this same old "retreat to the pre-1967 lines and give us a 'Right of Return'" when they are getting their butts whipped."

The Washington Pravda (as a friend of mine calls it) forgot to include a picture of the Hamastinians in the article. Fortunately, our roving cameraman just happend to be around and got one:


18 posted on 07/11/2006 9:22:43 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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