1 posted on
07/15/2006 8:09:29 PM PDT by
Coleus
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To: Coleus
In his article, Barres offers several personal anecdotes from both sides of the gender divide to prove his own hypothesis that prejudice plays a much bigger role than genes in preventing women from reaching their potential on university campuses and in government laboratories
Does anyone else see just how unscientific this is?
2 posted on
07/15/2006 8:13:17 PM PDT by
NinoFan
To: Coleus
And men shortage in nursing and education is blamed on what?
3 posted on
07/15/2006 8:13:43 PM PDT by
burzum
(Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
To: Coleus
Groom those girls to be line-backers and you'll get a whole lot more engineers eh?!
ROTFLMAO
Is this professor going to get yet a second sex change?
4 posted on
07/15/2006 8:14:28 PM PDT by
muawiyah
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To: Coleus
The one that rankles him most dates from his undergraduate days at MIT, where as a young woman in a class dominated by men he was the only student to solve a complicated math problem.It would be 'wrong' for me to idly point out that, as a transexual, he would claim to have always had the mind of a man, although it was in the body of a woman, so I won't.. ;^)
5 posted on
07/15/2006 8:15:29 PM PDT by
AntiGuv
("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
To: Coleus
And the reason why women porno stars get paid higher salaries than men is also due to bias.
So, sould we lower their salary? Should we requre all videos be packages with even ratios of each performers?
And fat people! Should we require fat people to be represented in porno videos, in direct proportion to their ratio of the general population.
That is about the level of logic of the desire that we should add more stupid people in science, to meet a fixed ratio of women.
6 posted on
07/15/2006 8:16:37 PM PDT by
Donald Meaker
(Brother, can you Paradigm?)
To: Coleus
"The one that rankles him most dates from his undergraduate days at MIT, where as a young woman in a class dominated by men he was the only student to solve a complicated math problem."This may or may not be true. (S)he might have had a biggotted professor. Moreover, this happened in the 1970's and much has changed since then. I would be shocked, very shocked if something like this would happen now.
7 posted on
07/15/2006 8:16:56 PM PDT by
mathprof
To: Coleus
where as a young woman in a class dominated by men he she was the only student to solve a complicated math problem. The professor said a boyfriend must have done the work for her, according to Barres. First off Barbara, no amount of surgery or hormones will ever make you a man.
Second, good for you to solve that math problem.
Third, now get your head out of where the sun doesn't shine you freak.
8 posted on
07/15/2006 8:16:57 PM PDT by
A message
(We who care, Can Not Fail)
To: Coleus
"I feel like I have a responsibility to speak out," he said." I feel like I have a responsibility to laugh at the living spectacle that you make of yourself. "Ma'am."
To: Coleus
What about chess competitions?
13 posted on
07/15/2006 8:22:03 PM PDT by
A. Pole
(President Putin:We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq.)
To: Coleus
Professors and high school teachers do treat women and men differently. I seen this for years. It takes thick skin to work around the bias. Like Ginger Rogers we have to dance as well backwards and in heels.
To: Coleus
""I've lived in the shoes of a woman and I've lived in the shoes of a man."
So, his closet is half Florsheim's and half Manolo Blaniks?
Oi vey, decisions, decisions, decisions.
I wonder what his underwear drawer looks like. On second thought, I don't wanna know.
16 posted on
07/15/2006 8:26:07 PM PDT by
garyhope
("In vino veritas" Especially a good red wine with a nice grilled steak and baked potato.)
To: Coleus
I've lived in the shoes of a woman and I've lived in the shoes of a man. It's caused me to reflect on the barriers women face." And tomorrow she will be Napoleon.
18 posted on
07/15/2006 8:27:26 PM PDT by
A. Pole
(President Putin:We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq.)
To: Coleus
there is no shortage of anyone in the sciences.
because India and China have lots of people, and that's where the job growth in tech is.
To: Coleus
Actually, on the NPR show
This American Life, there was another female-to-male transexual, whose testimony supported Summers' view: s/he reported that upon beginning testosterone injections, among other interesting effects--suddenly becoming a jerk around women, for instance--s/he suddenly became interested in physics. It's Episode 220 from 30 August 2005.
I have no doubt that 30 or so years ago an MIT professor could easily have made the reported remark. But after decades of NSF funding for women only projects since, and especially in the face of testimony to the contrary cited above, I think the assertion that the paucity of women in science is due to bias has gotten a bit thin. Try due to not being willing to do the series of postdocs needed for a top-flight career right when you want to have children.
20 posted on
07/15/2006 8:27:58 PM PDT by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: Coleus
Woman shortage in science blamed on biasNah, they're just not that into it...
24 posted on
07/15/2006 8:31:13 PM PDT by
Jim Noble
(And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
To: Coleus
This story is a lot of BS.Just go to a major university affiliated hospital and you'll find there are more females becoming doctors then ever before.Where I work the females are out-numbering the males in many specialties.It won't be long before they run the place and that may not be a bad thing.
To: Coleus
his unique vantage pointWhat's that?
That she's psychotic, with a serious delusion about her body?
THAT vantage point?
26 posted on
07/15/2006 8:32:43 PM PDT by
Jim Noble
(And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
To: Coleus
27 posted on
07/15/2006 8:33:42 PM PDT by
Incorrigible
(If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
To: Coleus
Most science programs today (especially hard science, like physics, math, and CS) fall all over themselves trying to attract and retain women. If you're a woman, and can manage a C or above, you are flooded with job offers and opportunties in those fields. Even in the face of this, many women totally ignore these fields. And then they whine about a wage disparity.
28 posted on
07/15/2006 8:36:48 PM PDT by
rbg81
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To: Coleus
I DEMAND to know why there aren't more Amish in the NBA. Oh--I do have a few anecdotes to show that bias was indeed involved.
29 posted on
07/15/2006 8:36:53 PM PDT by
Pharmboy
(Democrats lie because they must)
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