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The Human-Influenced Evolution of Dogs
Seed Magazine ^ | 18 July 2006 | Emily Anthes

Posted on 07/18/2006 9:06:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: lesser_satan
But humans probably interbred wolves with coyotes, dingos, foxes, and other canine species.

I don't think the DNA evidence bears that out, but I'm not an expert in this.

21 posted on 07/18/2006 9:21:43 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PatrickHenry

I've often used the variety found within dogs and the role of selective breeding in evolution discussions. Frankly, given the advancements in medicine I see the human race over the next three generations getting equal diversity (if it hasn't already!). Folk who wouldn't have survived or been able to pass on their genes 20 years ago, now can. That is going to massively widen the gene pool of the human race.

And in my opinion that's a good thing....The fewer variations found within a species, the closer that species is to extinction.

All according to my untrained pop science of course....


22 posted on 07/18/2006 9:22:18 AM PDT by Brit_Guy
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To: f zero

If you haven't, you should read "Marley and Me".


23 posted on 07/18/2006 9:22:33 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: Junior
But they're still wolves.
No, wait...

Actually, they still are...that's why there are still dog/wolf hybrids.

Parent taxa

Genus Canis (dogs, jackals, and wolves)
Species Canis lupus (gray wolf)
Subspecies Canis lupus dingo (dingo)
Subspecies Canis lupus familiaris (dog)

24 posted on 07/18/2006 9:22:59 AM PDT by omegatoo
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To: Dysart

this should be fun later mark


25 posted on 07/18/2006 9:23:09 AM PDT by Dysart
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To: PatrickHenry

But isn't evolution a fairy tale for Atheists?


26 posted on 07/18/2006 9:23:19 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: Brit_Guy
That is going to massively widen the gene pool of the human race.

If so, then the gene pool will sharply narrow again once parents can select the traits of their children, since the range of desirable traits is relatively narrow, and narrower than the current range of traits.

27 posted on 07/18/2006 9:24:35 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: CobaltBlue
I think she'd starve to death rather than dine on mice

Mine catches the mice, brings them inside, drops them in the food dish and then eats the dry food.

28 posted on 07/18/2006 9:25:35 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: bigcat32

That's like asking: Why isn't the sun at the bottom of the Pacific?


29 posted on 07/18/2006 9:26:00 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Chelsea?

I know, I'm bad.
30 posted on 07/18/2006 9:27:05 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"Genetic diversity, in this instance, seems to be result of a series of interventions by a series of intelligent designers."

Humans did not cause any of the genetic variation; they just selected which ones they wanted after the fact.


31 posted on 07/18/2006 9:27:42 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: bigcat32

"But isn't evolution a fairy tale for Atheists?"

No.


32 posted on 07/18/2006 9:28:44 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 07/18/2006 9:29:05 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkeyD

Re-read my post. I wasn't implying that humans were breeding with the canines.


34 posted on 07/18/2006 9:29:25 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I wonder if our canine friends have conversations like this:

Spot: You know, I have a theory that our human masters may have intervened in our development. That our current condition may have been the result of an "intelligent design," if you will.

Rover: You're an idiot. You're ignoring the mountains of overwhelming scientific evidence that we just evolved completely by ourselves. What are you trying to do - force us all to pray to your human gods? Throw us back into the doggie dark ages before pet salons and canine massages? Your stupid, idiotic ramblings are an insult. Where did you come up with this nonsense? While you were chasing your tail? Did I mention that you're an idiot?


35 posted on 07/18/2006 9:31:24 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: AntiGuv

Silly... That only happens at night.


36 posted on 07/18/2006 9:32:31 AM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: lesser_satan

Yep, sorry.


37 posted on 07/18/2006 9:32:54 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: CobaltBlue
My fat, fluffy, spoiled kitty-cat couldn't survive in the wild, either. I think she'd starve to death rather than dine on mice, waiting for someone to bring her the kibble.

Cats only hunt and kill if their mother teaches them.

The survival rate of feral dogs is about five percent. (The percentage that lives long enough to breed)

38 posted on 07/18/2006 9:34:18 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: PatrickHenry
"A lot of the changes over dog evolution would have provided the raw material that humans have used to shape different breeds," Webster said.

Then why didn't they shape them to keep quiet in the middle of the night and let me sleep?

39 posted on 07/18/2006 9:34:29 AM PDT by bankwalker (An accusation is often a subconscious confession.)
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To: muawiyah
"...anyone have an idea on which chromosome we'll find the gene that prevents chihuahua dogs from being permanently toilet trained? Those little suckers FORGET."

They don't forget. They just have an odd sense of humor!
40 posted on 07/18/2006 9:36:29 AM PDT by LIConFem (It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...)
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