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Woodpecker halts Ark. irrigation project - Disputed woodpecker halts project
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/20/06 | Andrew DeMillo - ap

Posted on 07/20/2006 12:57:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
noise from the station would cause the woodpeckers stress

Now how would they know? Have they consulted with the woodpecker? Did the woodpecker come to them and express concern about the project? I want to know what the bird thinks! This is a one sided opinion.

41 posted on 07/20/2006 1:39:31 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: NormsRevenge
The dispute involves the ivory-billed woodpecker. The last confirmed sighting of the bird in North America was in 1944, and scientists had thought the species was extinct until 2004, when a kayaker claimed to have spotted one in the area. But scientists have been unable to confirm the sighting.

Yes, they have: Ivory-billed Woodpecker (Campephilus principalis) Persists in Continental North America

42 posted on 07/20/2006 1:41:47 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: crazyhorse691

Yes seeing the Ivory Bill would be awesome.


43 posted on 07/20/2006 1:42:44 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: TommyDale

No luck on 'Morning Wood' ,, this is definitely in the general White Water river area however ,,


44 posted on 07/20/2006 1:49:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......The Ca GOP: Where conservatives votes count but their opinions don't.)
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To: Madeleine Ward; cripplecreek
I believe they have audiotapes of the Ivory Billed in Arkansas in addition to the video. Like the Pileated, though, they are reportedly a very shy creature. I've seen a couple of Pileated and they dashed off quickly when I got within about 100 feet of them. You two were very lucky to get so close to them.

I'm not too upset about the environmentalists delaying another federally subsidized project for rice farmers, but I don't see how anyone can do much of an impact study on such an elusive creature.

45 posted on 07/20/2006 1:57:30 PM PDT by ravinson
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Yes I Know I was lucky to get so close.

And it was every day for months during the winter. The suet was right of the deck hanging in the tree, about 10 feet from my living room window.

But because they always announced themselves, I could get to the window fast. As long as I didn't move, they didn't detect me.

It was really exciting.

The really cool thing is that my husband and I are going to build a great room off the back of our house. The deck will extend off that right to a cedar tree. Since the ground slopes, the room and the deck will be level with the foliage part of the tree. So I will have exactly the same conditions as before.


46 posted on 07/20/2006 2:09:43 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: Lazamataz
(which has never been seen anywhere, ever)

Now that's really rare. So much that it calls for new legislation. In the name of protecting our environment from all threats whatsoever (imagined or yet to be imagined) I hereby propose passage of The Engendered Specious Act.

Stop everything. Now.

Good. But I'm thinking we should also have tax incentives for buggies, mud huts and medical leeches.

47 posted on 07/20/2006 2:10:39 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ironies nested within ironies; the government's petard hard up against the ivoried bill of a lowly will o the wisp playing cheshire cat in the America's heartland, fairy tales created before our very eyes.


48 posted on 07/20/2006 2:19:24 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, now we know what the agenda was behing the mysterious rediscovery of the Ivory Billed Woodpecker.
49 posted on 07/20/2006 2:21:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: ravinson

I don't think they have they audio tapes yet. They have suspended microphones in the area but last I heard no confirmed Ivory calls.


50 posted on 07/20/2006 2:21:25 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: nomorelurker

It the birds are out there, then they should be able to hear them, and they should be able to record them.


51 posted on 07/20/2006 2:38:14 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: nomorelurker

Read the paper that was linked in post #42. It states that researchers have recorded drumming of Ivorybilled Peckers. It also has (blurry) stills from the video with an analysis.


52 posted on 07/20/2006 2:45:06 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: DoughtyOne

Wooly mammoths are extinct. Every child knows that. But Bigfoot is not and he is listed on the international CITES Endangered Species list. I saw one last winter in the woods near that terrible river project. It was eating an ivory billed woodpecker.


53 posted on 07/20/2006 3:09:27 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Madeleine Ward

Pileated are pests on the west coast of Fl. They wake me up in the morning with their infernal racket. I have literall seen dozens, large bird, funny swooping flight, inane cluck. We are also plagued by bald eagles.
Nothin special about these birds.


54 posted on 07/20/2006 3:17:12 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hey now..I've been to Brinkley Arkansas, and even the locals there aren't convinced the bird actually exists: According to Wikipedia

"Brinkley is located near the Cache River National Wildlife Refuge, where in February 2004 the ivory-billed woodpecker was purportedly rediscovered after having thought to be extinct for over 60 years.

Brinkley has attempted to capitalize on its good fortune of being the largest city near the Refuge and the rediscovery of the woodpecker:

A billboard on eastbound Interstate 40 proclaims Brinkley as "The Home of the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker"

One motel has changed its name to "The Ivory-Billed Inn"

A local resident has opened a shop, "The Ivory-Billed Nest", devoted exclusively to ivory-billed paraphernalia.

One local barbershop offers an "ivory-billed" haircut (a variation of the mohawk complete with red tinting)

Gene's Restaurant and Barbeque, a popular local restaurant, offers an "ivory-billed burger" and an "ivory-billed salad" on its menu; in addition, two of the initial rediscoverers of the ivory-billed woodpecker have written a children's book which mentions Gene's.

In addition to the ivory-billed sightings, since July 2005 at least two confirmed reports of bald eagle nests have been found in the Monroe County area.

Further, the swamps of the Cache River are believed to contain among the oldest cypress trees in the United States.

Brinkley opened a convention center in 1996 which can seat up to 600 people; in February 2006 the center hosted a conference commemorating the second anniversary of the ivory-billed woodpecker's rediscovery.

Now, I've seen some great examples of the Cypress Wood for sale at Flea markets there. Really cool..

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55 posted on 07/20/2006 3:27:30 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Amos the Prophet

I'm still holding out for the woolly mammoth. Your big-foot is just a holdover hippy from the 60s. :->


56 posted on 07/20/2006 4:04:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: XRdsRev
"I wonder if water conservation or other ideas were implemented before the government spent taxpayer money on an irrigation project ?"

I doubt it since it's used for farming irrigation. It's just the way they make the aquifer sound like it going to run out of water by 2015. I always thought aquifers were renewed by seepage water traveling from one body of water to another and from surface water.
57 posted on 07/20/2006 7:51:38 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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