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Democrats, The Party of War.

Posted on 07/25/2006 5:09:51 PM PDT by Xing Daorong

In uncertain times such as these, when our nation is at war with enemies in two nations, one must wonder what party has the steel to see an operation through properly, and what party would avoid confronting unessecary conflicts. Today it is the Republicans who are largely labeled "warmongers" especially in my home state (NJ) and throughout the Northeast. But side to side, lets see which party really has started or involved us in more wars, we shall start with the hot spot of past military interventions, Latin America.

Republican:

Argentina- 1890 Chile- 1891 Haiti- 1891 Spanish-American War 1898 (Cuba and Puerto Rico seized, Major Military Intervention) Nicaragua- 1898-99 Honduras- 1903 Dominican Republic- 1903-04 Cuba- 1906-09 Nicaragua- 1907 Honduras- 1907 Panama- 1908 Nicaragua- 1910 Honduras- 1911 Cuba- 1912 Panama- 1912 Honduras- 1912 Honduras- 1924-25 Panama- 1925 El Salvador- 1932 Guatemala- 1954-? (Major Covert CIA Military Intervention) Panama- 1958 Chile- 1973 El Salvador- 1981-92 (Major Covert CIA Military Intervention, "Iran-Contra Affair", War against the Sandanistas) Honduras- 1982-90 Grenada- 1983-84 (Operation Urgent Fury, Marxist regime ousted, quick withdrawal, moderate military intervention) Bolivia- 1987 Panama- 1989 (Operation Just Cause, Manuel Noreiga captured, regime ousted, quick withdrawal, major military intervention) Haiti- 2004 (occupation following Aristide's violent overthrow)

Total: 28 Major Military Intervention: 4 Moderate Military Intervention: 1

Republican and Democratic:

Nicaragua- 1912-33 (Major Military Intervention, fight against Nicaraguan insurgents.) Haiti- 1914-34 (Major Military Operation, 19 year occupation of Haiti following revolts) Dominican Republic- 1916-24 (Major Military Intervention,8 year occupation of Dominican Republic) Cuba- 1917-33 (16 year occupation of Cuba, Major Military Intervention)

Democratic: Nicaragua- 1894-96 Panama- 1895 Mexico- 1913 Dominican Republic- 1914 Mexico- 1914-18 (Major Military Intervention) Panama- 1918-20 Honduras- 1919 Guatemala- 1920 Costa Rica- 1921 Panama- 1921 Uruguay- 1947 Puerto Rico- 1950 (Moderate Scale Military Intervention) Cuba 1961- (Bay of Pigs, Major Covert Military Intervention) Cuba 1962- (Cuban Missile Crisis) Panama- 1964 Dominican Republic- 1965-66 (Operation Power Pack, dictator Trujillo overthrown and quick withdrawal, major military intervention) Guatemala- 1966-67 (Moderate Military Intervention) Haiti- 1994-95 (Major Military Intervention, Raul Cedres steps down, Jean Bertrand Aristide installed, quick withdrawal)

Total: 18 Major Military Interventions: 4 Moderate Military Interventions: 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As we can see, the Democratic Party has intervened 10 times less than the Republican Party, but take a closer look. Of the three major American military occupations in Latin America (Cuba, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic), all three have been initiated under Democratic president Woodrow Wilson, the War in Nicaragua was over seen by Wilson throughout his whole two terms in office, it was started by Republican president William Taft and seen through one Democratic and two Republican administrations. Four major military interventions occured under the watch of both parties, the Republicans had two fatal faliures in the covert operations, while they had two light successes in Panama and Grenada, although overall the commitment to the wars was minescule. The Democrats had three fatal faliures in the Bay of Pigs, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti and a light success in Guatemala.

Note: Most of these interventions were small scale and around election time violence in many nations.

Onto the rest of the military interventions.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dudewheresmylink; militaryhistory

1 posted on 07/25/2006 5:09:52 PM PDT by Xing Daorong
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To: Xing Daorong

Democratic Party

1831-32 – Falkland Islands
1832 – Sumatra (Indonesia)
1833 - Argentina
1835-36 - Peru
1836 - Mexico.(Moderate Military Intervention)
1838-39 – Sumatra (Indonesia)
1840 - Fiji Islands
1841 - Drummond Island, Kingsmill Group (Pacific Ocean)
1841 – Samoa
1846 - Bear Flag Revolt
1846-48 - Mexican-American War (Major Military Operation, Mexico cedes 1/3 of it's territories)
1849 – Smyrna (Izmir, Turkey)
1852-53 - Argentina
1853 - Nicaragua
1853-54 - Japan (Mathew Perry's "Opening of Japan")
1853-54 - Ryukyu and Bonin Islands (Japan)
1854 - China
1854-58 - Nicaragua
1855 - China
1855 - Fiji Islands
1855 - Uruguay
1856 - Panama, Republic of New Grenada
1856 - China
1857-1858 - Utah War
1858 - Uruguay
1858 - Fiji Islands
1858-59 - Turkey
1859 - Paraguay
1859 - Mexico
1859 - China
1860 - Angola, Portuguese West Africa
1860 - Colombia, Bay of Panama
1865 -- Panama. - March 9 and 10. US forces protected the lives and property of American residents during a revolution.
1866 - Mexico
1866 - China
1867 - Nicaragua (Moderate Military Operation)
1867 - Formosa (island of Taiwan)
1868 - Japan (Osaka, Hiolo, Nagasaki, Yokohama, and Negata)
1868 - Uruguay
1868 - Colombia
1885 - Panama (Colon)
1888 - Korea
1888 - Haiti
1888-89 - Samoa
1889 - Hawaiian Islands
1893 -- Hawaii
1894 - Brazil
1894 - Nicaragua
1894-95 - China
1894-95 - China
1894-96 - Korea
1895 - Colombia
1895-96 - Venezuela
1896 - Nicaragua
1913 - Mexico
1914 - Haiti
1916 - China
1917 - China
1917-18 - World War I. (Major Military Intervention)
1918-20 - Soviet Union (Polar Bear Expedition)
1919 - Dalmatia (Croatia)
1919 - Turkey
1920 - China
1932 - China
1934 - China
1936 - Spanish Civil War (Abraham Lincoln Brigades)
1941 - Greenland
1941 - Netherlands (Dutch Guiana)
1941 - Iceland
1941 - Germany (Pre-war patrols sent, Moderate Military Intervention)
1941-45 - World War II (Major Military Intervention)
1945 - China (Assistance to Nationalist rebels, Major Military Intervention)
1945-1949 Occupation of part of Germany
1945-1955 Occupation of part of Austria
1945-1946 Occupation of part of Italy
1945-1952 Occupation of Japan
1945-1946 - Phillipines
1945-1949 - South Korea (Occupation of South Korea and defeat of a leftist insurgency, Major Military Operation)
1945-47 - China
1948 - Palestine
1948 - Berlin (Airlift)
1948-49 - China
1950-53 - Korean War (Major Military Operation)
1962 - Thailand
1963 - Iraq (CIA backed coup of Iraqi dictator Abdul Karim Qassim)
1964 - Congo
1964 - Brazil
1967 - Congo
1968 - Iraq (CIA backed pro-Ba'ath coup bringing down Arif government)
1978 -- Zaire (Congo)
1980 - Iran (Operation Eagle Claw, ends in faliure)
1980 - Iran (Hostage rescue attempt)
1981 - El Salvador
1981 - Libya
1993-1995 - Somalia (Operation Continued Hope ends in faliure,Moderate Military Intervention, quick withdrawal)
1991-1996 - Iraq (Operation Provide Comfort)
1993 - Macedonia
1994-1996 - Rwanda (Post-genocide)
1994 - Macedonia
1995 - Bosnia (Operation Deliberate Force, Moderate Military Intervention)
1996 - Liberia
1996 - Central African Republic
1997 - Albania
1997 - Congo and Gabon (same day)
1997 - Sierra Leone
1997 - Cambodia
1998 - Iraq (Operation Desert Fox, Moderate Military Intervention)
1998 - Guinea-Bissau
1998-1999 - Kenya and Tanzania (post-bombings)
1998 - Afghanistan and Sudan (Operation Infinite Reach, ends in faliure, taking out 1/2 Sudan's medical supplies and missing Osama bin Laden, Moderate Military Intervention)
1998 - Liberia
1999-2001 - East Timor
1999 - War in Kosovo (Moderate-Major Military Intervention)
2000 - Sierra Leone
2000 - Yemen (Post U.S.S Cole bombings)




Republican Party

1861-1865 - American Civil War (Major Military Intervention)
1865-1877 - Post Civil War Reconstruction
1863-64 - Japan
1870 - Mexico
1870 - Hawaiian Islands
1871 - Korea (Minor Military Intervention)
1873 - Colombia (Bay of Panama)
1874 - Hawaiian Islands
1876 - Mexico
1882 - Egypt
1885 - Panama (Colon)
1891 - Bering Strait
1893 - Hawaii
1898-1899 -- Samoa (Samoan Civil War)
1898-99 - China
1899-1913 - Philippines (American-Phillipine War, Major Military Intervention)
1900 - China
1903 - Syria
1903-04 - Abyssinia (Ethiopia)
1904 - Tangier, Morocco
1904-05 -- Korea
1911-12 - China
1912 - Turkey
1922 - Turkey
1922-27 - China (series of small protective interventions)
1932 - China
1950-55 - Formosa (Taiwan)
1954-55 - China
1956 - Egypt
1958 - Lebanon (Moderate Military Intervention, Anti-Rebel Operation)
1974 - Cyprus
1976 - Lebanon
1976 - Korea
1982 - Sinai
1982-1983 - Lebanon (Lebanese Civil War, Moderate Military Intervention)
1983 - Egypt
1983 - Chad
1984 - Persian Gulf
1985 - Italy (Counter terrorism)
1986 - Libya (Operation El Dorado Canyon, Libyan infastructure bombed and warplanes downed following discovery of Mohmar Quadahfi's links to terrorist attacks, Moderate Military Intervention)
1987-1988 - Persian Gulf (Operation Earnest Will, Operation Prime Chance, protection of Kuwaiti and American oil tankers, strikes against Iranian military)
1989 - Libya
1989 - Philippines
1990 - Liberia
1991 - First Gulf War (Iraq, Major Military Intervention)
1991 - Zaire
1992 - Sierra Leone
1990 - Saudi Arabia
1992 - Kuwait
2001 - Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan, Major Military Operation)
2002 -- Yemen (UAV strike kills terrorist)
2002 -- Philippines
2002 --Cote d'Ivoire
2003-Present - Second Gulf War (Iraq, Major Military Intervention)
2003 - Liberia
2003 - Georgia and Djibouti
2006 - Pakistan (UAV kills al-Qaeda affiliates)
2006 - Lebanon


2 posted on 07/25/2006 5:10:37 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

Democratic Presidents: 15
Republican Presidents: 18

Military Interventions/Conflicts entered or Started by Democratic Party:

134

**Vietnam is added on due to the authorization of direct military force by the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, Richard Nixon drew down and withdrew troops but was also involved in the bombings of Vietcong in Laos and Cambodia, Dwight Eisenhower sent "advisors", this is also a direct intervention, 1 point will be added to both sides for good measure.**

Military Interventions/Conflicts entered or Started by Republican Party:

87

Average interventions per Democrat President:

9

Average interventions per Republican President:

5

What President Intervened Militarily More than Any Other?

William (Bill) J. Clinton (21)




I hope this will clear things up for those who have the idea that electing a Democrat means less or no war, the Democrats have a history of intervening, for better or for worse, more than the Republicans have.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 5:11:11 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

They don't finish them either.


4 posted on 07/25/2006 5:13:36 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Xing Daorong

Thanks for the details.


5 posted on 07/25/2006 5:15:48 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: bmwcyle

A sad but true fact of Democratic presidents. Clinton bringing out the worst in defeatist politics.


6 posted on 07/25/2006 5:17:45 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: ConservativeMind

No problem, just wanted to get the word out and expose the "peace loving" Democratic Party. Which is ultimately responsible through the LBJ and Clinton administrations for ****ing up Iraq the way it is.


7 posted on 07/25/2006 5:19:02 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong
Democrats - The Party of War - Criminals.

Bowing to the democrats description of Israel's responses as disproportionate, one has to include their president Truman as a war criminal for his disproportionate use of force in using nuclear weapons against Japanese population centers.

Recognizing also the complaints from democrats about Abu Garib, we also should include FDR into the hall of shame of war criminals for his imprisonment of Japanese Americans during WW2. What an embarrassment to have such villains in our past.

8 posted on 07/25/2006 5:29:34 PM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: Xing Daorong

Well, liberals still relive the Vietnam War so if you want to blow their minds, take them through the following logic tree. It will prove how little American history they actually know.

First, ask which political party is more warlike, today and in the 1960-70s.

Second, ask them which party was in power when American involvement in the Vietnam War started. Then ask which President.

Third, ask which party was in power when American troops deployments peaked at 500,000. Then ask which President.

Fourth, ask whether the USA or a European country actually started the Vietnam War. Then ask if they remember the name of the dastardly European leader who started the Vietnam War.




Answers:

1) Democrats started more wars, which lasted longer and were far more bloody, than Republicans.

2) Democrats. President John F Kennedy.

3) Democrats. President Lyndon B Johnson.

4) A European country, France, started the Vietnam War. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson made the decisions to throw massive military might at the problems after the French quit the fight. Even I don't remember the name of the leader.




Why do this test? Because your basic idiot liberal will think that the Vietnam War was started by Republicans, specifically Richard Nixon, and will not even know that we ended up there because the cowardly French cut and run and asked us for help.


9 posted on 07/25/2006 11:23:18 PM PDT by tom h
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