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Job discrimination against smokers is allowed, says Brussels
EUobserver ^
| Aug 07 2006
| Lisbeth Kirk
Posted on 08/07/2006 1:02:04 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: Marius3188
they come back into the office and they stink. I don't like smelly people either, but people who smoke on their breaks aren't so offensive as to merit legal discrimination against them.
Personally, their smell offends me less than their frequent smoke breaks.
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posted on
08/07/2006 1:36:57 AM PDT
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: Marius3188
I'm always curious to know why the generally leftist Europeans, who love to brag that they're healthier than Americans (mostly because of the compulsory military service or other 'volunteering' jobs), don't seem bother by smoking as much as many Americans do.
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posted on
08/07/2006 1:37:33 AM PDT
by
paudio
(Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
To: coconutt2000
Smokers where I work spend more time outside than they do on their jobs. I don't mind the smoking as much as I do chewing. The man I work with chews and spits tobacco juice/spit in all the trash cans all day. Nasty! They aren't allowed to smoke inside the facility so the ones that don't want to spend all day on the porch, chew.
To: Marius3188
Will Brussels next require you to eat your Brussels sprouts?
To: Marius3188
Smoking is a personal choice, refusing to hire a smoker is also a personal choice.
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posted on
08/07/2006 3:46:46 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: Marius3188
Smoking is a personal choice, refusing to hire a smoker is also a personal choice.
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posted on
08/07/2006 3:46:48 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: Marius3188
I'd love to see them try to do this to someone who's ethnic food "would make things unbearable for the other staff..."
And the EU is full of silly gooses: It's perfectly lawful to discriminate against any white male! No need to put "smoke screens" in front of our eyes!
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posted on
08/07/2006 4:13:31 AM PDT
by
detsaoT
(Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
To: HEY4QDEMS
"Smoking is a personal choice, refusing to hire a smoker is also a personal choice"Hmmmm...Let's see, using that rationale,
"Homosexual conduct is a personal choice, refusing to hire a homosexual is also a personal choice"....
I like the idea, but don't think the argument would hold up very well in today's PC-zealot trendiness...
To: Marius3188
"If people are smoking on a coffee break or in their own time they come back into the office and they stink"
and if they had a coffe on top, it becomes a WMD!
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posted on
08/07/2006 4:27:47 AM PDT
by
observer5
(It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
To: traditional1
"Homosexual conduct is a personal choice, refusing to hire a homosexual is also a personal choice"....
You are correct, however, I have always rejected the arguement that "You're wrong, therefore I have the right to be wrong too"
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posted on
08/07/2006 4:29:49 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: HEY4QDEMS
So is deviant/gay sex, but for some reason you can't discriminate against potential employees who engage in high risk behavior, even though they could easily milk your health plan with the cost of thier behavior. Personnally, my observation is smokers are more focused on the job. The perceived cost to the employee is minimal when compared to aids. One other note, they aren't the ones who normally catch and spread the colds/flu that visits an office every year. I would assume that an employer who mandates no-smoking in hiring is performing a urine or blood test to know. If he knows you smoke, he also knows many other things about you.
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posted on
08/07/2006 4:36:16 AM PDT
by
tigtog
To: Melinda in TN
Smokers where I work spend more time outside than they do on their jobs.Just the opposite here. It's the non-smokers who spend twice the time in the break room (then try to figure out why they can't lose weight, ha!) The problem is.... smokers are more obvious when they take breaks because they have to leave their work areas.
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:00:14 AM PDT
by
LaineyDee
(Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
To: tigtog
So is deviant/gay sex, but for some reason you can't discriminate against potential employees who engage in high risk behavior
See post 11.
BTW, there are lots of companies that are still willing to hire smokers but the ones who don't wish to shouldn't be forced to either. The fact that sexual orientation is protected is disturbing, but affording smokers the same protection doesn't make things even or fair, it only compounds things.
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:16:57 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: coconutt2000
Personally, their smell offends me less than their frequent smoke breaks.I know....I thought about it, more than once, about taking up smoking just to be able to stand outside for 10 minutes every half hour.
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:23:42 AM PDT
by
Fawn
(BUILD A LONG TALL WALL)
To: LaineyDee
Um...excuse me. Are you saying people who don't smoke are overweight?
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:25:49 AM PDT
by
Fawn
(BUILD A LONG TALL WALL)
To: Melinda in TN
I read your post and I thought you have to be working in a hillbilly hell.
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:33:03 AM PDT
by
Paulus
To: All
Tobacco smoking is dying out.
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:45:43 AM PDT
by
winston2
(In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
To: Fawn
I thought about it, more than once, about taking up smoking just to be able to stand outside for 10 minutes every half hour. If your company allows that, it's the companies fault. "10 minutes every halfhour"? I would say that is BS.
Further more, where I work, EVERYONE is entitled to two 15 minute breaks during the day.
I think you're trying to blow smoke up my.....something.
FMCDH(BITS)
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:55:49 AM PDT
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
To: Marius3188
Guess smokers are Europe's new Jews. Funny how most of Hitlers' desires were carried in spite of the fact that he lost the war.
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posted on
08/07/2006 5:57:35 AM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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