Posted on 08/11/2006 11:47:13 AM PDT by TaxRelief
1) Man arrives with suitcase full of American toys and dismantles doll in pink dress. (AP)
2) Man carries dismantled doll, minnie mouse and teletubbie for placing in dramatic poses. (Reuters)
3) Fauxtographer takes pictures when props are in position.(Reuters)
Will that photo be airing on ABCDisney News?
Right, I got you. Tons of concrete, household items, bleeding humans, pets, food etc, etc collapse down in an explosion...but presto chango, Ahkmed shows up and happens to find overwhelmingly, exceptionally, inexplicably, impossibly pristine toys that only require a light dusting to be recovered and recycled for some other needy future terrorist.
I feel that.
/Am I talking to a DUmmy?
Sam,
You are grasping at straws. The evidence speaks for itself, and if AP wanted to examine the entire sequence, they would have conclusive proof that these "toy shots" from Reuters are staged.
Now, put yourself in AP's position: Are they going to start a war by outing Reuters? Of course, I'm assuming that AP is not complicit.
"I think it is a fairly common trick among photojournalists to drop a doll into a bombed out environment."
I've certainly had my suspicions that's been going on. Especially given the proscription against having images of animals around the house in the Moslem religion. (Something I'm amazed nobody's brought up.) But I guess they might be as strict in Lebanon. Or maybe these were Christians or Druze.
As for the cleanliness of the dolls, and who knows where he found them? Maybe they were in something else. Maybe even in the house that is still standing to the left. Do you really think the poser and the photographer would be so stupid as to over look such a basic thing?
VaBthang4, check out my posting history if you think I'm from DU.
I'm simply saying the background of the shots suggest he may have come down from the hill (upstage) to the suitcase with the two dolls and picked up Minnie along the way.
Sheesh.
"The evidence speaks for itself..."
No, it doesn't. And it actually hurts the cause to go off half cocked.
I said the same thing about the New York Times "dead man" photo caption, which turned out to be a simple mistake. (And the paper itself actually had the correct caption.)
I'm the last person to defend these people. For instance:
About That Times “Missile” Photo Caption | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/about-that-times-missile-photo-caption
But getting carried away doesn't help.
And the gentleman at EU Referendum, Richard North, seems to be saying the same thing these days. (After having himself been slightly burned re the time stamps.)
Look, no one debates that the toys are too clean. I doubt anyone here thinks it was not staged. However, I question whether the three photos are conclusive proof that he was getting them out of the suitcase and putting them around in these pictures.
Perhaps, he did put them around, and the suitcase picture is where he gathered them up afterward to use in another scene.
Really what caught my eye about it was that the suitcase is all ripped up. It looked to me like the suitcase may have been pulled from the rubble as something in which to put the toys. Dunno.
What I do believe, though, it is that it is staged.
So now that the AP knows we're onto Hezbollah's tricks, and the AP's willing participation in the Hezbolli's playacting, they're going to play it straight for once.
We're in agreement then.
Then, there's this little jewel from an obvious anti-semite, written to the editor of a small-town newspaper. Nevermind the factual errors, and this idiot's misstatement of facts; what is important is that he thinks the evil Joooooz are getting what they deserve:
"Israel, all the time it occupied the territories, could not disarm Hezbollah or destroy it.
How did it expect the Palestinian government to do it? It seems to me that invading another country over the taking of two soldiers prisoner is a bit excessive. From what I understand, there was a truce between the two until Israel made an incursion into Lebanon whereby two of their soldiers were taken prisoner.
What was Israel doing there? Perhaps creating the situation whereby they could try to justify what they are doing now?
Hezbollah and Israel hate each other. So while Israel has a right to defend itself, so does Hezbollah have the same right when being directly attacked.
I want Israelis to stop whining and crying about missiles flying into Israel. It's giving me an earache, for God's sake! It's a war, and they asked for it.
Because the Israelis are killing more civilians then Hezbollah, I have to conclude the aim is to kill more Arabs in a long-tried campaign of ethnic cleansing.
Israelis have to know they will never be able to take out Hezbollah, it's just never going to happen. Even if they could, another organization will step into its place.
The issue is Israel's dream of a greater Israel and the understandable Arab opposition. If you fail to understand the Arab opposition, you're probably a Christian Zionist and there is no hope for you. You, like the overly religious Jews and Muslims, are part of the problem. ..."
END OF QUOTE
And we thought it was only the DUers who are nuts.
I wonder where he got the nice suitcase and clothes if his house was destroyed.
Of course I do. What I find difficult to comprehend is how willfully stupid others choose to be.
Yes, we are, except to extent you think the suitcase picture is undeniable proof it was staged. I wish we had 1 or 2 more photos, I think it would completely clear it up.
Also, I disagree with the shaded analysis above. I think he picked up Minnie first, given his direction in picture number 2.
I think maybe the dolls were placed there before pics were taken. Then when Photogs got there, this guy's job was to go around looking like he was salvaging toys and putting them into that suitcase.
Dude, the NY Times was never right on that picture. They called him a body the first time. Then injured.
He wasn't injured, he laid down there. Look at his hat tucked under his arm. How do you fall and get hurt and have your hat tuck up under your arm magically?
Oh, and by the way, those dudes in the pics set that fire. You need fire to get nice smokey pictures. Tire dumps work really well.
Then they shill for the enemy -- and want our support... what chutzpah
"They called him a body the first time. Then injured."
Dude, you don't know what you are talking about.
The original caption (which ran with the photo) was that a rescuer was injured while....
The caption in their photo gallery was a quote from the mayor of Tyre talking about how dead bodies were still being recovered. It was a caption for another photo, misapplied.
Dude.
Re: post 84, LOL! I was waiting for Looter Dude to show up. Green Helmet Guy got nothin' on him.
From the New York Times corrections page:
For the RecordDude.A picture caption with an audio slide show on July 27 about an Israeli attack on a building in Tyre, Lebanon, imprecisely described the situation in the picture. The man pictured, who had been seen in previous images appearing to assist with the rescue effort, was injured during that rescue effort, not during the initial attack, and was not killed.
The correct description was this one, which appeared with that picture in the printed edition of The Times: After an Israeli airstrike destroyed a building in Tyre, Lebanon, yesterday, one man helped another who had fallen and was hurt. (Go to Interactive Feature)
HAHAHAHAH! Yep, that's what it is!
Israel -- 6.5 million
Yep. Those A-rabs better watch out; the Israeli genocide machine is on the move.
If "ethnic cleansing" is the Israelis' goal, they're going to need help from the Semite Tornado.
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