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Governor, Angelides seize initiatives as ammunition (their stand on all props listed)
Contra Costa Times ^ | Aug. 13, 2006 | Kate Folmar

Posted on 08/13/2006 10:22:10 AM PDT by FairOpinion

By taking a stand on sex offenders, alternative energy, Schwarzenegger, challenger get message out, highlight differences.

If Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has his druthers, Californians will vote in November to crack down on sex offenders, reject several taxes and authorize a raft of new borrowing for public works.

If Treasurer Phil Angelides gets his way, voters will force oil companies to fund research into alternative energy, create a new system to publicly finance political campaigns and reject a new limit on abortion.

The treasurer has endorsed initiatives that would raise tobacco taxes to fund health care, institute an oil extraction tax to pay for research into new energy sources and raise corporate taxes by .2 percent to publicly fund campaigns.

Steadfast in his opposition to new taxes, the governor is against all three initiatives.

Last year, as he pushed a conservative agenda of reform initiatives, the governor made headlines when he endorsed an almost identical measure. Schwarzenegger said he would be tempted to "kill" anyone who assisted one of his daughters in seeking an abortion without his knowledge.

(Excerpt) Read more at contracostatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2006election; angelides; angelidesonprops; arnoldonprops; cainititives; calgov2006; california; calinitiatives; capropositions; election2006; electiongovernor; elections; schwarzenegger
Their stand on all propositions listed. (Go to link above for detail). Here is a summary:

Both support the bonds: Prop. 1A to 1E both YES.

83-84 both YES.

Prop. 85 (Parental notification for abortion): Schwarzenegger: Yes; Angelides: No

Prop. 86 (Tobacco tax for health services): Schwarzenegger: No; Angelides: Yes

Prop. 87 (Oil extraction tax for alternative energy): Schwarzenegger: No; Angelides: Yes

Prop. 88 (Parcel tax for education): Schwarzenegger: No; Angelides: Undecided

Prop. 89 (Public financing for campaigns): Schwarzenegger: No; Angelides: Yes

Prop. 90 (Changes to eminent domain): Schwarzenegger: Undecided; Angelides: Undecided

1 posted on 08/13/2006 10:22:10 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

more borrowing, more taxes. Lovely.


2 posted on 08/13/2006 10:30:24 AM PDT by Third Order
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To: Third Order

We need the infrastructure bonds, CA has the worst roads in the nation.

But the only way Arnold could get the Dem Legislature to agree, if he agreed to the bonds on houseing, parks, and so on.

The problem is that Dems have too much power in CA.


3 posted on 08/13/2006 10:36:52 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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Prop. 90 (Changes to eminent domain): Schwarzenegger: Undecided

Huh?


4 posted on 08/13/2006 10:37:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Both support the bonds: Prop. 1A to 1E both YES.


Hmmmm?
Not much of a difference there..

37 billion dollars more debt, and when it is paid-off , the sum will be almost twice that.


Bond brokers are salivating as the next meat wagon pulls into the station.



5 posted on 08/13/2006 10:43:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
                                                          Arnold    Phil

Prop 1A  Transportation Funding Protection                  YES     YES
Prop 1B  Highway/Traffic/Air/Port Bond  ($19.9 billion)     YES     YES
Prop 1C  Housing/Emergency Shelter Bond  ($2.8 billion)     YES     YES
Prop 1D  Kindergarten-Univ School Bond  ($10.4 billion)     YES     YES
Prop 1E  Disaster/Flood Protection Bond  ($4.1 billion)     YES     YES
Prop 83  Jessica's Law, sex offender punishment             YES     YES
Prop 84  Water Quality/Park Bond         ($5.4 billion)     YES     YES
Prop 85  Parental Notification                              YES     YES
Prop 86  Cigarette Tax                                       NO     YES
Prop 87  Alternative energy, Oil Tax                         NO     YES
Prop 88  Parcel Tax                                          NO       ?
Prop 89  Taxpayer Funding of Campaigns                       NO     YES
Prop 90  Eminent Domain                                       ?       ?

6 posted on 08/13/2006 11:10:43 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion
Yep. Exactly as I posted a week ago (when you chose to attack me for posting "unsubstantiated assertions").
7 posted on 08/13/2006 11:13:27 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion
I'm against ALL borrowing and against ALL taxes. I am FOR cracking down on pedophiles, FOR parental notification and FOR eminent domain reform.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

8 posted on 08/13/2006 11:13:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
Prop. 90 (Changes to eminent domain): Schwarzenegger: Undecided

I'm interested to see an explanation of any opposition on that one. It should be a no-brainer.

YES on 90!

9 posted on 08/13/2006 11:49:40 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Is it possible that enactment would preclude such foolishness that allowed the establishment of the California Conservancy ?


10 posted on 08/13/2006 12:41:25 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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Is it possible that enactment would preclude such foolishness that allowed the establishment of the California Conservancy ?

No, the conservancies were established by the legislature. Their operating expenses are funded by the general fund and supplemented by bonds for acquiring properties, etc.

There are some interesting tax implications of eminent domain application that I wasn't aware of before. They are highlighted in this article that I just posted:

Official's Tax Break: on Firm Ground? (Eminent Domain claimed for tax benefits)
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 13, 2006 | William Heisel
Posted on 08/13/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl

11 posted on 08/13/2006 1:04:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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