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Mammoths may roam again after 27,000 years
Times on line/ Drudgereport ^ | Aug. 15, 2006 | Mark Henderson, Science Editor Times on line

Posted on 08/15/2006 4:46:58 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing

BODIES of extinct Ice Age mammals, such as woolly mammoths, that have been frozen in permafrost for thousands of years may contain viable sperm that could be used to bring them back from the dead, scientists said yesterday.

Research has indicated that mammalian sperm can survive being frozen for much longer than was previously thought, suggesting that it could potentially be recovered from species that have died out.

Several well-preserved mammoth carcasses have been found in the permafrost of Siberia, and scientists estimate that there could be millions more.

Last year a Canadian team demonstrated that it was possible to extract DNA from the specimens, and announced the sequencing of about 1 per cent of the genome of a mammoth that died about 27,000 years ago.

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(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; dna; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; mammoth
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First evolutionist said that the mammoth has been extinct for billions of years, then it was millions of years and now it is but 27,000 years.

How much longer before they are down to the time line of the Creationist? Under 10,000 years anybody?

How creationist loose in court is beyond me.

1 posted on 08/15/2006 4:46:59 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
So many squirrels to step on, so little time!


2 posted on 08/15/2006 4:49:19 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
First evolutionist said that the mammoth has been extinct for billions of years, then it was millions of years and now it is but 27,000 years.

Wooly mammoths have been extinct for 27 minutes.

3 posted on 08/15/2006 4:50:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
First evolutionist said that the mammoth has been extinct for billions of years.....How creationist loose in court is beyond me.

Playing fast and loose (proper usage, btw) with the facts might have something to do with it.

4 posted on 08/15/2006 4:50:53 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
How creationist loose in court is beyond me.

lots of things seem to be beyond you...including doing a check to see if already was posting.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683793/posts

5 posted on 08/15/2006 4:52:43 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
With access to the mammoth’s genetic code, and with frozen sperm recovered from testes, it may be possible to resurrect an animal that is very similar to a mammoth.

OK...but for what purpose? Is there a big demand for Mammoths out there?

6 posted on 08/15/2006 4:54:07 AM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

The last Wooly Mammoth roamed the Earth 7 seconds ago.


7 posted on 08/15/2006 4:55:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: edpc
OK...but for what purpose? Is there a big demand for Mammoths out there?

The demand is mammoth.

8 posted on 08/15/2006 4:55:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
How creationist loose in court is beyond me.

Because decent people hold misreprentation in contempt, even (especially) when it's done for a Holy Cause.

And oh yeah, no scientist has ever suggested that mammoths have been extinct for even millions of years.

9 posted on 08/15/2006 4:57:48 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
First evolutionist said that the mammoth has been extinct for billions of years

Cite, please.

10 posted on 08/15/2006 4:57:59 AM PDT by RogueIsland (.)
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To: Lazamataz

They're hugh!!


11 posted on 08/15/2006 4:58:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Will these clones have any natural immunity to AIDS and other modern pathogens, or will they croak fast?


12 posted on 08/15/2006 4:58:56 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Lazamataz
Wooly mammoths have been extinct for 27 minutes.

LOL... But if scientists can do it i'd appreciate it a lot.

Hmmm.. i wonder how would Cindy Sheehan react if the remaining attention she has gets snatched by the news about cloned mammoths. sarc/

13 posted on 08/15/2006 5:01:48 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: Lazamataz

I just saw one....stroll down the street.


14 posted on 08/15/2006 5:03:52 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Lazamataz
The last Wooly Mammoth roamed the Earth 7 seconds ago.

I do hope that nobody will post another Ted Kennedy/Helen Thomas/John Murtha pics on this thread...

15 posted on 08/15/2006 5:04:48 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: ChristianDefender

Wooly mammoths have been extinct for 7.2 nanoseconds.


16 posted on 08/15/2006 5:05:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: ClaireSolt
Will these clones have any natural immunity to AIDS and other modern pathogens, or will they croak fast?

Or, on the other hand, will they bear the dreaded Wooly Trunk Cough?

17 posted on 08/15/2006 5:06:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

Just in time for Globull Warming to kill them all again!.......


18 posted on 08/15/2006 5:09:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Lazamataz

There's one living down the street from me.


19 posted on 08/15/2006 5:09:47 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Lazamataz

I am a wooly mammoth.


No, really.


20 posted on 08/15/2006 5:10:44 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: Lazamataz

LASt wooly mammoth? Did Helen Thomas kick the bucket?


21 posted on 08/15/2006 5:10:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Lazamataz

I'm dreading the infestation of the wooly mammoth tick. It'll suck your face off.


22 posted on 08/15/2006 5:11:33 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

I took comparative anatomy almost twenty-five years ago. I don't recall anyone saying any of those things. Please list the citaions of where ANYONE has said anything about large mammalian existance billions of years ago.


23 posted on 08/15/2006 5:12:07 AM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: ClaireSolt
Will these clones have any natural immunity to AIDS...

That would depend on their sexual behaviors and preferences... as long as they stick to the traditional way, they'll be fine...

24 posted on 08/15/2006 5:12:34 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
First evolutionist said that the mammoth has been extinct for billions of years, then it was millions of years and now it is but 27,000 years.

Please identify a credible source where a scientist has claimed mammoths have been extinct for billions or millions of years.

Let me save you the trouble. You cannot. In fact, even the present article does not claim they have been extinct for 27,000 years. It says the particular mammoth carcass they are discussing has been dead for 27,000 years.

Is it possible that if you learned to read for comprehension, you would not be so confused?

25 posted on 08/15/2006 5:13:19 AM PDT by HayekRocks
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To: edpc
OK...but for what purpose? Is there a big demand for Mammoths out there?

Yes - they apparently taste like chicken.

26 posted on 08/15/2006 5:13:20 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

....more importantly, what do mammoth steaks taste like?

I hope they're yummy.

:0


27 posted on 08/15/2006 5:13:23 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Tanniker Smith
You're soaking in Wooly Mammoth right now.


28 posted on 08/15/2006 5:13:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: HayekRocks
Please identify a credible source where a scientist has claimed mammoths have been extinct for billions or millions of years.

You have identified exactly what I was riffing off of.

I figured if this poster made up numbers, I could too.

29 posted on 08/15/2006 5:14:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Oh no, those pesky Brits are making the waters even more muddy.

Extinct mammoth DNA decoded

By Helen Briggs
BBC News science reporterette


Mammoths became extinct in the last few thousand years ago.

A few, isn't that three? Even the rabid evolutionist does not deny that man walked the earth for more than 3,000 years. So man and mammoth walked the earth together, wow, Dawin must be rolling over in his grave.

Well enough fun, got to go to work.

30 posted on 08/15/2006 5:15:07 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

Wooly mammoths have been extinct for 0.02 picoseconds.


31 posted on 08/15/2006 5:15:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: Lazamataz

Beastly thread, this.


32 posted on 08/15/2006 5:15:24 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party, aka alQaeda, Western Division.)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Well enough fun, got to go to work.

You can't.

You've been laid off for billions of years.

33 posted on 08/15/2006 5:16:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: prairiebreeze
Beastly thread, this.

8/15 Mammoth Live Thread

34 posted on 08/15/2006 5:18:08 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing; Lazamataz

multi-tusking?

35 posted on 08/15/2006 5:18:48 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: Lazamataz

I was figuring a gajillion years would pretty much cover it.


36 posted on 08/15/2006 5:18:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Lazamataz
Last night I shot a Woolly Mammoth in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know.
37 posted on 08/15/2006 5:19:34 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

If there is a God, please let that job NOT require any degree of precision


38 posted on 08/15/2006 5:19:46 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: HayekRocks
It says the particular mammoth carcass they are discussing has been dead for 27,000 years.

The wife and I visited the mammoth dig site in SE Wyoming two years ago. Interesting place. Apparently, it was a wallow hole for both Columbian and Woolly mammoths, but only for the boys. Of the 50 carcases or so found at the site, none are female. As I recall, the tour guide said the last mammoths roamed the earth about 12,000 years ago.

39 posted on 08/15/2006 5:21:03 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Lazamataz

No, that was just Rosie O'Donnell. People make that mistake all the time.


40 posted on 08/15/2006 5:22:00 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: RogueIsland

There'll be no citation, I assure you.


41 posted on 08/15/2006 5:22:01 AM PDT by cydcharisse
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To: Lazamataz
You have identified exactly what I was riffing off of. I figured if this poster made up numbers, I could too.

You were subtle. The problem with subtlety is too many of us learn only when a sledgehammer is applied to our cranium.

42 posted on 08/15/2006 5:23:47 AM PDT by HayekRocks
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43 posted on 08/15/2006 5:23:51 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

How long before they blame the Woolly Mammoth's extiction on Bush?


44 posted on 08/15/2006 5:24:18 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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How creationist loose in court is beyond me.

Commie and pinko judges.

45 posted on 08/15/2006 5:24:34 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: Lazamataz
Boy, does that bring back memories of the 60s!

Thanks!

46 posted on 08/15/2006 5:26:04 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: cripplecreek
I was figuring a gajillion years would pretty much cover it.

Evolutionists would make more sense, but they say that wooly mammoths have been extinct for a trintillion skadillion years.

And we all know they've only been extinct for eleventy-papillion years.

47 posted on 08/15/2006 5:29:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

A stuffed mammoth would look good next to my stuffed dodo bird. Except I'd have to bust down a wall and kick my wife out of her craft room to make space. Maybe if she sat on top of the mammoth and did her crafts...


48 posted on 08/15/2006 5:29:02 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Nothing happens in a vacuum until I get there - the 4th Law of Physics)
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To: Lazamataz
They live among us


49 posted on 08/15/2006 5:29:31 AM PDT by kidd
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To: satchmodog9
There goes my breakfast....thanks a whole lot.
50 posted on 08/15/2006 5:30:03 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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