The end of the 2nd Amendment?

Townhall.com ^ | August 17, 2006 | Cam Edwards

[Blue Jays]

Hi C.P.-

"...I don't own a gun, and haven't since I was 16 or so and last played around with a pellet gun. At this time, there is no need for me to own a gun. If I have to live in a scum neighborhood, or if I have a family, I'll consider whether I should buy a gun and take lessons. In any case, I'm not interested in guns. Does any of this make me a non-conservative? No, it doesn't. If you can convince me otherwise, I'll buy you a frigging arsenal of your choice..."

subsequent post:

"...Didn't mean to be snippy there. I imagine all these other FReepers out there thinking I'm some doubletalking hypocrite for not being into guns, yet calling myself a conservative. I know that isn't necessarily you..."

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Your sincere apology is accepted. Don't sweat it even for a second.

The one notion to consider is that one doesn't want to be behind the proverbial 8-ball of needing a gun and not having it when the chips are truly down. Regardless of neighborhood, a high-quality stainless steel revolver is an excellent insurance policy that can be obtained for less than $450.00 and will last your entire lifetime and your childrens' lifetimes.

I had very liberal friends who cringed at the fact that I have always owned firearms. One night in 1997, a group of criminals attempted to invade their condominium using an ax in the mistaken belief my friends owned an expensive antique collection. The criminals had the right complex, they were just smashing the door and window of the wrong unit!

The ax blade literally came through their door like Jack Nicholson's character in The Shining and my friend used a golf club and poked it through the jagged hole to try and shove them away. Meanwhile, his girlfriend was throwing hardcover books at their broken rear window and screaming to keep the criminals from climbing through. They never had an opportunity to dial 9-1-1 since it all happened so quickly.

Apparently someone else in the complex heard the commotion and called the police while they were busy fighting for their lives. The goblins heard the sirens and screeching of tires and that is when they decided to scatter. My friends estimated there were three or four men trying to gain access to their home. None of them were caught by the police.

These people are now gunowners. They keep their 4" .357 Magnum revolver loaded and stored in a quick-access box. It gets cleaned on a monthly basis and only taken to the range annually because they're still not enthusiasts...but they recognize how that tool could someday save their lives. They learned their lesson the hard way and were very lucky.

~ Blue Jays ~

[Beckwith]

The premise of the Second Amendment, the need for minutemen, no longer exists. In a free society we must rely on the police. We have more important rights to fight for than the right to bear arms.”

The Right to Bear Arms exists to defend us from an unjust government, just like the British government of the 18th century.

Bearing that in mind, it's easy to understand why those in government work diligently to deny us that defense.

[Khepera]

These people don't deserve to live

[ApplegateRanch]

I understand that Soviet Russia had a lot of police, and no right to own guns. Boy, look how great that turned out.

Yes, but those were Com'nists; America is a democratsy, so that would never happen here.

The Poe-LEESE is my friend...Mr. Derby done teached me so!

He also teached me that will never change, so longs we keeps voting foah DEM-crats, 'stead of them FASHIST 'Publ'cans, like that Hitler Booosh that wants to re-enslave us all.

Mistah Derby is a good teachah!

Gottah go now; my ho called & needs mo crack foah a custmer.

[proudofthesouth]

My tag line says it all.

[Zeon Cowboy]

[ApplegateRanch]

BS. State after state has passed concealed-carry laws in just the last few years.

And BS right back. If ANY "progress" had been made, NOBODY would have to beg permission to carry, concealed, or otherwise.

[from occupied ga]

What about all the concealed-carry laws that have been passed lately?

These is a good point and one I expected you to bring up, but these are "privileges" rather than rights. If you have to ask and receive permission from the government to do an activity then the activity is a privilege not a right.

In essence the "brady" (may that evil whore rot in hell forever) background check converted the entire gun buying process from a right into a privilege. The problem with privileges is that they can be withdrawn at any time for any reason or for no reason at the whim of any bureaucrat.

[ApplegateRanch]

They keep their 4" .357 Magnum revolver loaded and stored in a quick-access box. It gets cleaned on a monthly basis and only taken to the range annually because they're still not enthusiasts...but they recognize how that tool could someday save their lives. They learned their lesson the hard way and were very lucky.

I have to politely disagree. They did NOT learn.

If, They never had an opportunity to dial 9-1-1 since it all happened so quickly, then it also happened too fast to retrieve a weapon from a lock-box.

[California Patriot]

That's fine. Always ready to discuss or explain.

[Lancey Howard]

I don’t think Mr. Derby is a bad man, just horribly misguided.

Okay, no tapdancing from me - - Derby is a sick, pathetic ignoramus. Teachers like him are the reason parents who love their children must keep them far, far away from the government schools.

[Shooter 2.5]

We have King George II promising to sign any gun control that crosses his desk. The people whose guns were stolen by the New Orleand police haven't gotten them back yet and probably won't.

Your defeatist attitude ignores the fact George Bush signed the Firearm Manufacturer's Protection Act. The NRA is also suing to get those guns back to their rightful owners without your help.

The NRA-Four million members doing the work 76 million gun owners are too lazy to do.

[sneakers]

And this man's opinion is important because?..........

[California Patriot]

I said that if I lived in a scum neighborhood or had a family to worry about, I'd reconsider. That is not "uninterested" in self-defense.

I am, however, uninterested in guns. If I chose to own one, I'd become interested just enough to know what I needed to know. I own a stereo and a cell phone, and know how they work and what to do with them, but am uninterested in either.

None of this should have needed explanation, but obviously it does.

[California Patriot]

A good cautionary tale. I'll remember it.

[thoughtomator]

That's an interpretation of "uninterested" I have not seen previously. I'm not a big gun enthusiast but I made damn sure I knew how to fire one accurately. Might be needed one day to defend our country on our own soil.

[from occupied ga]

Your defeatist attitude ignores the fact George Bush signed the Firearm Manufacturer's Protection Act.

BFD

The NRA-Four million members doing the work 76 million gun owners are too lazy to do<

Half a dozen legislative lobbysts doing the compromising that the 4 million members aren't told about.

[California Patriot]

For Christ's sake. Don't you understand means that "progress" simply means "improvement," not that a situation is ideal?

You've pointed out that gun laws aren't ideal.
I've pointed out that in many states, they've gotten better. How the hell is that not progress?

You can say it's very slight progress, or that things have been getting words in other respects with gun laws. But to say that there's no progress because we shouldn't have had to pass concealed-carry in the first place is illogical.
What you mean is, the situation wasn't and isn't ideal. No argument there. But here as elsewhere, perfectionism is counter-productive.

[Old Student]

"How does an idiot like that ever get to teach in public schools?......oops, I answered my own question.........."

Watch it! I, too, am a public school teacher. You paint with an awfully broad brush there, FRiend. You might want to notice that this is in an eastern city. Somewhat farther west, we do things a little differently.

[California Patriot]

I'm not aware that the Brady Law gives bureaucrats a blank check to deny weapon ownership "at any time for any reason," let alone "for no reason." Is that really what it does, or is this just overheated rhetoric?