Posted on 08/24/2006 4:37:54 PM PDT by shanec
If a modest sized nuke was exploded off shore (on a ship, not a air blast) from one of our ports like NYC. How far away would the EMP effects travel?
If a modest sized nuke was exploded off shore (on a ship, not a air blast) from one of our ports like NYC. How far away would the EMP effects travel?
And what will happen to network TV? I'll just die if I can't keep up with "Survivor" every week!
I sure hope we never have to face such an attack. Our material blessings have insulated us from some of the hard realities of life. We have thus been able to make death a mere dramatic device in movies and TV. But whether it's been danger from bands of Huns, the Assyrian army, Pol Pot or the pandemic Black Death, there's been numerous episodes of megadeath in human history. And the comforting thing is that in even all this, God is still in charge. As Jesus said in Matthew 6:19:
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures on the earth, where rust and the moth consume, where thieves break through and steal. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither rust nor moth consumes, and where thieves do not break through nor steal."
By all means we should prudently prepare to take care of ourselves and our families (especially if we still have our children to care for) But the best preparation while we lay up physical necessities is to meanwhile lay up treasure in heaven. That way even if the big ground zero is the ground right under our house, or if we're all reduced to living in grass huts with a 30 year life expectancy, we can rest easy because we have made preperation for our true home.
No sir I do not.
You are spot on! One of the terrible possibilities with the democrat approach to appease and talk to terrorists is the very real possibility of them detonating a series of two or three nuclear weapons in the Gulf. The tsunami waves would render the Gulf Coast unihabitable for quite some time and the GUlf gas and oil platforms would be utterly useless, not to mention the escaping gas and oil rendering the Gulf a dead zone. The American voters are dumbed down purposely and there are factions within the government (read democrats, purely and simplely adversaries to US dominance, democraps) so determined to render US a non-super power that it is perhaps too late for literally millions who will be sacrificed in the democrat empowerment scheme. If folks think Katrina did some damage, wait to see what al qaeda can do to the entire Gulf coast with two or three nukes detonated below surface in the Gulf. Or off the coast of New York, Baltimore, Boston, if you like.
Not to compound the threat, but letting a country like mad mullah Iran achieve nuclear weapon status is a sure way to get nukes into the ships owned by al qaeda or operatives cooperating with al qaeda (Dubai Ports World anyone?). Such nukes could easily be packaged for dropping into the Gulf and sunk to a particular optimal depth before detonation. N. Korea and Iran with nukes is a sure way to bring about massive death and mayhem ... but then, that's precisely what the Rockefellers and democrats in general want so they can occupy the vacuum. Enjoy the democrat return to power over you, America. The happy days will be short lived and the death and destruction will surely follow. We know this as surely as day follows night because the democrats are showing their treachery and have learned to sacrifice millions in their empowerment schemes (read abortion on demand, if you doubt their gleeful deal with the devil).
I only have a small collection from when I was visiting old court houses for business and would ask for a little of the old unused materials.
All of my stuff is packed away in deep storage (elsewhere)and I probably won't see it again until I move several years from now.
I do like the more masculine attitude of the old material though. Look at your graphic it is men, in action, getting things done, there was nothing passive about govt. advice then.
Many Russians never ate sausage during the siege of Stalingrad, quite a few people simply disappeared...
Think of it as radiation therapy. You'll be immune to everything if you survive the treatment.
We'd written that for a future nuclear crisis and resultant mass panicked audience that has not yet arrived. As mentioned in it; "This guide was purposely designed with the sober realization that the overwhelming majority of our fellow Americans would not be compelled to read such a guide until a nuclear crisis was imminent and, unfortunately, their preparation options and time to prepare then would be very limited."
We wanted something that'd be a simple step-by-step basics that was practical for the masses then that they might still be able to do and acquire locally, and for the media to distribute, when an event happened that had us, and other sources, again sold-out. Like after 9/11 when the Federal Office of Emergency Preparedness dispatched a Lear Jet down here and scooped up our last 300,000 doses of KI or when FEMA bought out our last 13 truckloads of MRE's for Katrina last year.
The point is, as also mentioned in that guide; "If you are fortunate enough to be exploring your family preparation needs and options before such a future national crisis, there is much more that you can and should do now to insure that they are even better prepared."
That guide is a starting point and the links in it will further deepen your nuke prep knowledge and expand your family preparation options and odds of survival.
The original article posted here "The Good News About Nuclear Destruction" will, hopefully, now have many more seriously considering actually doing so, and well before a nuclear crisis unfolds and their options/time then had run out.
- Shane
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It would take quite a bit more than two or three 10 kt devices to do that. Water is extremely heavy, and a lot of the water around a nuclear burst is just vaporized, not lifted and dropped.
For reference, the Crossroads Baker shot in 1946 involved a 20kt device (identical to Trinity and Nagasaki) exploded 80 ft deep in Bikini lagoon. The resulting wave swamped some of the target ships in the lagoon, and the reflected concussion blew the bottom out of a (target) aircraft carrier. However, the surrounding atoll was not at all wiped out by the tsunami. (AFAIK, it didn't do any appreciable damage on land.)
You know, a 36" thickness of books, magazines or newspapers will reduce the amount of gamma radiation coming through them by 99%. You should set up your shelter inside all your CD materials!
Seriously, if you ever dig your stuff out, look me up! Until then, check out conelrad.com... lots of good stuff there.
Yes I misstated what Iodine could prevent. Unintentional my omission was that iodine will only reduce the amount of radioactive iodine absorbed by the thyroid, and prevent thyroid cancer at a later date.
As far as radiation sickness, avoiding contact with the dust as much as possible will help prevent absorbtion. Keep inside in a well sealed area. After a few days, the dust will settle. If possible, bathe in non contaminated water. Although remember that water resources may be in short supply, and may be better served by saving for drinking.
you said "The killing efficiency of trained fire teams is awesome and unhindered by fears. Order and peace among many can be restored by few of them rather quickly"
I know you want to believe that, but recall in New Orleans, after the hurricane, the snipers, the fires, and how long it took to restore order. How much looting took place before the troops arrived? How many days were the people at the mercy of the thugs and gangs roaming the streets? Impassable roads could prevent any kind of response for days or even weeks, especially if devestation is in multiple locations. Considering the botched response for one area a hundred miles wide, what if there are ten disasters nationwide? Who will be prioritized?
New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina should be considered a test response of disaster preparedness. From my view, the government failed to deliver on it's promise of protecting the people. From the top all the way down to the bottom of the bureaucracy. And it will continue to fail because bureaucracy has trouble learning from mistakes and not repeating them. It is very naive to believe that a humvee is going to come straight to your neighborhood immediately after the crisis and save you.
Yup - well said.
I read somewhere that a 1-megaton attack on New York City would destroy 10% of the assets and kill 20% of the population, thus leaving the citizenry proportionally better off...
Naw, don't teach duck-and-cover; think of it as evolution in action.
Detonate a 20 kt device or three at a depth of three hundred or more feet, perhaps one hundred miles apart. The swell created would devastate the coast in a very short time, and done at height of beach visitation time, the murder potential is astronomical. Don't make the mistake of under estimating the murderous intentions or potential of these demonspawn arising from Islam.
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