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The Good News About Nuclear Destruction
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | August 24th, 2006 | Shane Connor

Posted on 08/24/2006 4:37:54 PM PDT by shanec

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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
"This article ignores the EMP damage to everything electronic..."

Not entirely; read the guide, it refers to how to protect your radios. Concerning your financial accounts: "Will records of savings and investments disappear?" You bet! Keep hard copies of all your current important documents, which will make recovering your records by the banks, etc. easier. BTW don't expect your insurance to cover any damage or other casualty losses you may incur. (Act of war, terrorism clauses)

21 posted on 08/24/2006 5:45:48 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA NECCES EST!)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Best single nuke prep book, IMO, is "Nuclear War Survival Skills" published originally by Oak Ridge National Laboratory. Free on-line copy is here...

http://www.ki4u.com/free_book/s73p904.htm


22 posted on 08/24/2006 5:48:56 PM PDT by shanec
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To: shanec

There was a site that showed the blast radius of various bombs. Assuming that most terror nukes probably wouldn't go higher than 10kt ground blasts, most any large city would not be totally "destroyed".

Experts in this stuff know that terrorists and rouge nations would go for financial centers and symbolic targets, like the WH and Wall Street. 5 or 6 well placed nukes going off at once would probably bring a nation to its knees economically, followed shortly by the entire developed world. This is the nightmare scenario that terrorists want to carry out. Urban civilization as we know it would be at risk. Just as other civilizations have been attacked and crumbled in the face of new military technology and internal strife, so ours would be under threat in the wake of such an attack, as remaining cities were evacuated or abandoned and political and economic structures reorganized themselves or completely collapsed.

However, by demonstrating fortitude, determination and creativity in attacking organized terror worldwide, this is an entirely avoidable outcome. Attacking finances, organizations and worldwide political support structures as we are now is the only effective way.

Any military expert would say that a good offence is the best defense against this type of aggression, since there are simply too many ways to breech the walls of any given security structure with compact weapons and abundant targets.

GW gets briefed on the likelyhood of this type of attack regularly and this scenario drives much of US policy at the moment, like it or not.


23 posted on 08/24/2006 5:53:21 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Cindy

WOT thread?


24 posted on 08/24/2006 6:02:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Wiseghy
From www.radshelters4u.com

The following four drawings show what level of blast damage (at different psi overpressure) and fire ignition from the thermal pulse might be expected for different strength nuclear explosions (both ground and air bursts) at different distances from ground zero. Take note of the damage range distances from GZ - ground zero. (Courtesy of Nuclear Attack Environment Handbook, FEMA - August, 1990)

Nuclear Blast Distance Effects

Nuclear Blast Distance Effects

Nuclear Blast Distance Effects

Nuclear Blast Distance Effects

Obviously, the bigger the weapon yield the larger the area of overpressure damage from the blast wave. But, notice that the damage range does not increase in a linear fashion with the more powerful explosions. For instance, comparing the 200 KT air burst with the five times more powerful 1 MT air burst, the range of moderate damage and initial fires increased from only 4.3 miles to 7.3 miles. This is because the reach of blast and fire effects varies as the cube root of the weapon yield ratio and the cube root of 5 is 1.71. So, instead of a five-fold increase or 500% we have only about a 70% increase in this comparison.

A readily portable terrorist nuclear bomb would likely be only a fraction as powerful as the examples above, but for reference, the Hiroshima nuclear bomb was only a 15KT air burst. (The RA-115 backpack nukes reported missing from Russian stockpiles are one kiloton yield each, and they would most likely be surface exploded.)

25 posted on 08/24/2006 6:08:31 PM PDT by shanec
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To: shanec

When people asked him what we could do about the bomb, Brother Dave Gardner used to say, "Don't make no difference.... as long as you can say, "What was that?"


26 posted on 08/24/2006 6:28:09 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: netmilsmom

'Would that include my crank radio?',p.

Timely question. Just about two hours ago my spouse presented me with this really cool crank radio.


27 posted on 08/24/2006 6:45:37 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: shanec

Shane C ,, Thanks for posting this here. It will get a lot of exposure at this time of day.

epaul


28 posted on 08/24/2006 6:56:16 PM PDT by epaul
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To: shanec

Thanks for the timely post.


29 posted on 08/24/2006 7:00:59 PM PDT by PioneerDrive (cursing the darkness)
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To: shanec

The keys to survival, shelter, food, water, firearms and ammo. Iodine tablets could spare you from radiation sickness. Forget about life as it was pre blast. it will be every man for himself. Every day that relief aid fails to come, people will get more desperate. They will KILL for your food and water. Anarchy will prevail so it is imparitive that you stay put and not travel. Do not place yourself in a position where you may have to share your provisions with neighbors or friends.

As for any disaster drill, people should know by now that FEMA will not come running to save you. You will have to save yourself. And the best plan to save yourself is lay low, be prepared to shoot intruders dead, and protect your provisions.


30 posted on 08/24/2006 7:20:45 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (ELECT SOME WORKERS AND REMOVE THE JERKERS!.)
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To: shanec

Nuclear winter will offset global warming!


31 posted on 08/24/2006 7:48:02 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: RightWhale

"I have an old army medical nuclear injury triage manual. That is the real deal. Basically, if you get sick quickly or immediately you are a goner. If you slowly get sick over three days you will recover."



I love that kind of real world usable guideline for the layman.

It is annoying to continually find modern survival info that consists of non-committal info you would tell your 7 year old daughter, like make sure you have fresh batteries, and write down the number of the Red Cross, and keep some blankets, if the nuclear blast is close by, tell someone in authority, etc.



32 posted on 08/24/2006 7:50:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: shanec
Bttt.

5.56mm

33 posted on 08/24/2006 7:51:26 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MD_Willington_1976

I googled "1961 civil defense pamphlet" with out quotes, and found a lot of interesting stuff.

This site had an 8 page pamhlet from (I think) 1955.

http://www.mbe.doe.gov/me70/manhattan/facts_fallout.htm


34 posted on 08/24/2006 8:09:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: RightWhale
"If you slowly get sick over three days you will recover ..." to die of cancer in a year or three. Chernobyl anyone?
35 posted on 08/24/2006 8:19:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: shanec

bttt


36 posted on 08/24/2006 8:22:14 PM PDT by Peace Is Coming
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles; netmilsmom
"...'Would that include my crank radio?',p. ..."

Anything solid-state, i.e. transister, integrated circuit, etc.,(probably the crank radio) is toast from the EMP.

Tube-type radios and TV's would work, but require lotsa electricity. .............FRegards

37 posted on 08/24/2006 8:27:04 PM PDT by gonzo (Sex!!..................................You're never to old to watch...)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Store your crank radio in an old ammo can, bond the lid to the body of the can with a soldered wire. MAybe if it has a SW band you can hear something after a few days.

I keep an old Army rig around (GRC-109 w/GN 58) but I doubt I'll have anyone to talk with - scintillation effect and all.
38 posted on 08/24/2006 9:18:26 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: shanec

Also found here:
http://www.oism.org/nwss/ updated in 1987

http://www.areyouprepared.com/nuclear-survival/s43.htm

and from our 'friends overseas - http://www.yespakistan.com/nuke/11steps.asp

enjoy, it makes for interesting reading on a clod winter night. Try not to have too many nightmares.


39 posted on 08/24/2006 9:24:34 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Here is an excellent one fron January 1951, I think it takes that adult tone we mentioned.

http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/SurvivalBooklet.html


40 posted on 08/24/2006 9:29:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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