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1 posted on 08/29/2006 4:28:55 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Probably so.


2 posted on 08/29/2006 4:29:49 PM PDT by shankbear
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To: Clive

Sounds like it might be another case of "get-there-itis" - crew in a hurry to keep the airline's schedule and didn't take time to check the compass heading.


4 posted on 08/29/2006 4:31:16 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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5 posted on 08/29/2006 4:31:19 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Where was ground control?

Who was watching as "clear for takeoff" was uttered?

The tower was asleep.


6 posted on 08/29/2006 4:32:48 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Clive

How sad. I wondered what could have happened.


7 posted on 08/29/2006 4:33:25 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: Clive

Another idiotic headline, as if these pilots were just morons or something. A mention of the conditions of the runways could have been incorporated into the headline, resulting in something like "Construction on runways may have led to confusion on takeoff".


11 posted on 08/29/2006 4:36:50 PM PDT by Joann37
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13 posted on 08/29/2006 4:37:22 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: Clive

And what a sad thing that the sole survivor is the one who will bear the agonizing guilt for the deaths of the other 49. Man, does this poor soul have some tough sledding ahead, if he survives.


15 posted on 08/29/2006 4:39:11 PM PDT by LikeLight (The photo looks like it has been REUTERED)
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To: Clive

"Ground control, to Master Tom..."


20 posted on 08/29/2006 4:42:46 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Clive

There is a good lesson to learn: trust your gut and never assume.


21 posted on 08/29/2006 4:44:59 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Clive

Ummm. - Aligning the DG to the mag compass and verifying RW heading with the mag compass isn't done anymore?


22 posted on 08/29/2006 4:45:19 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Clive

The first thing I always do after taking the runway at an unfamiliar airport is check my compass. It tells me if my compass is aligned and I am on the correct runway. If I recall correctly, the runway they took was 40 different in heading than the one they should have taken. It's hard to miss that much difference, even at night.


25 posted on 08/29/2006 4:49:35 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: Clive

you think....


26 posted on 08/29/2006 4:53:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Clive
"A temporary advisory to pilots warning of the lighting outages on the longer runway used by commercial flights at Lexington's Blue Grass Airport had expired the day before the crash, the aviation sources said."

No new NOTAMS regarding the updated MIRL info and maybe an additional graf on the new taxiways and barriers? That's just sad.

30 posted on 08/29/2006 5:01:52 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: All
The understaffing of the tower that the FAA acknowledged is that there was only one controller on that shift, which means he worked a straight-eight alone. The tower cab itself was not understaffed. There would have only been one controller in the cab regardless...a second controller would have been on break.

Many, many towers are staffed with just a single controller in the cab at one time. At Toledo Express, where I work, the tower cab is operated by a single person almost 24/7/365...only rarely are there two people on position in the tower. I'm sure many other airport towers the size of Toledo or Lexington operate the same way...and that's not going to change...the FAA doesn't have the personnel.

If you think this is a safety problem, petition the Bush administration and your congresscritters...because they don't really care about ATC staffing problems.

38 posted on 08/29/2006 5:26:07 PM PDT by Sting 11
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To: Clive

Ya think?


49 posted on 08/30/2006 2:59:39 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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