Noah's Ark Discovered ... Again and Again

Skeptical Inquirer ^ | 9-5-06 | Benjamin Radford

[Central Scrutiniser]

In this world there are things that seem on the verge of being discovered every so often, yet never quite materialize. The "Lost City" of Atlantis, for example, has been "found" at least a half dozen times. One researcher is pretty sure it is in Bolivia; another says it is Antarctica; a third claims that Bimini beachrock may be from the lost civilization. So it is with Noah's Ark. The difference is, of course, that the implications of Noah's Ark actually being found extend far beyond archaeology. The weight of all the paired animals in the world is nothing compared to the religious freight that the Ark carries. The Ark story is scientifically implausible; there simply wouldn't be enough space on the boat to accommodate two of every living animal (including dinosaurs), along with the food and water necessary to keep them alive. Furthermore, constructing a vessel of that scale would take hundreds of workers months to complete.

[Central Scrutiniser]

So, you want to base science on random, unprovable miracles?

I just want the people that literally believe in this story to provide some proof that it happened, how hard is that?

[NCC-1701]

"...they shall be male and female..."

So they could procreate and perpetuate the species. A very good argument to use against the same sex loving group(s).

[stars & stripes forever]

I'm going to take Christ's word on Noah no matter who tells me it was just a story to teach people.

If it's in the Book....that's the way was, is, and will be.

[Coyoteman]

One commonly raised problem is ‘How could you fit all those huge dinosaurs on the Ark?’

Q. What's harder than getting a pregnant Brontosaurus into the ark?

A. Getting a Brontosaurus pregnant in the ark!

(Noah! Make them stop. I'm getting seasick!)

[Central Scrutiniser]

Yeah, but under that scenario, they could only perpetuate the species by practicing inbreeding, is that OK with you?

[L,TOWM]

I just have logic and science on my side

Ergo, you already have all the proof anyone could possibly want, right?

I had a critical thinking / philosophy intructor in College that would love to get ahold of that statement.

[RightWhale]

Nobody believes the fables. Even Plato recommended the fables be sent to the landfill. But the fables have meaning and Noah's Ark is no exception. Same with Job. Let's not ignore the meaning while making a point that has been made a brazillion times in the past three millenia.

[go-dubya-04]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. The first person I have ever met that thinks exactly how I do with regard to the Bible.

[Sloth]

So, you want to base science on random, unprovable miracles?

Have you been smoking crack? Where did I say anything of the kind?

I just want the people that literally believe in this story to provide some proof that it happened

And I want some proof that there are aliens, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Theo]

If you're not a Christian, then I can understand your ridiculing the biblical account of Noah and the ark. If you are a Christian, I'm puzzled by your trivializing of Scripture.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though, and assume you don't yet have a relationship with the Lord.

[Tenacious 1]

[Fortunately, entry to Heaven doesn't depend on getting those answers right (or most of us are doomed, given the wide disagreement on all those issues).]

In that regard I agree completely. I would take it a step further. And some will argue with me on this. Most religions and sects and sub-sects worship the same God. They all believe in different details, processes and procedures. For instance, Jews and Christians believe in the same God. Jews do not ascribe to the holy trinity or the divinity of Jesus, however.

I once read a compelling piece that suggested even Muslims worship the same God as Christians. It was a Mormon that introduced me to the piece. It was a logical diversion from the "Book of Mormon" that Identified Muhammad as a prophet. I was out of my league as I do not know much about Islam or The Church of Ladder Day Saints. But it connected dots in a sort of Religious Family Tree, starting with the Hebrews of the Old Testament.

We are silly humans and I bet our Lord views us as we do our 4 year old children. They are just adorable but often drive you crazy, make you mad, make you laugh, etc. We give our children guidelines, we teach them, we nurture them, and in the end, just hope they turn out right.

[Theo]

Excellent. I've loved Sarfati's writings -- seems so logically sound.

[GarySpFc]

No, you have the outrageous claim that goes against logic, you prove that there was an ark. Where is it? How did the animals get home? What did they eat? Where are the fossils? How could you build a boat out of wood that would be structurally sound enough and large enough to hold all the animals.
You have to answer the questions to prove the fable, I just have logic and science on my side.

Actually you have faith in science and logic on your side. I should also include faith and hell. I will stand with the Living God and faith in His Word. BTW, if the animals were in hibernation they wouldn't need food.

[blowfish]

If you are a Christian, I'm puzzled by your trivializing of Scripture.

Because I don't believe in the literal truth of the Noah's ark account. And the posted attempt to provide a pseudo-scientific 'feasibility study' of the account is more an insult to the intelligence than anything else.

[Sloth]

Fortunatly, entry to Heaven doesn't depend on getting those answers right (or most of us are doomed, given the wide disagreement on all those issues).

Matthew 7:13-14 says most of us ARE doomed.

[Coyoteman]

No fossil records, no geologic records,

That's one of the major errors creationists make, equating the ark story with fossils and geology.

The date is commonly given as about 2350 BC. At that time period you are dealing with bones, not fossils, and with soils, not rocks.

In many environments, bones will last that long. There probably have been thousands of mammoths and mastadons excavated in the western US, and they went extinct in most places about 10,000 years ago or so.

So, we need dinosaur bones at about 2350 BC, and a record of a global flood in soils.

Neither has been found.

[Common Tator]

Did you ever notice that a huge flood offers no danger to sea creatures. Didn't think so. In case you never looked all sorts of edible things grow under water. There are fish for example.

[dmz]

That wasn't Noah's ark, silly person. That was the arc of the covenant.

[Larry Lucido]

Well, technically, we're ALL doomed, save for God's grace. :-)

I trust Him to show us what we need to know to find that narrow gate.

[NCC-1701]

The first two human beings were Adam and Eve. They had at least two sons, Cain and Able. We know what happened to Able. My guess is that there had to be some inbreeding to produce another female and male to keep the line going. Who did it with whom is an unanswerable question. Unless, of course, God made some other humans that went unrecorded with which Cain met and had a child with. My question to you is do you know where the separate bloodline(s) came from so as to avoid inbreeding amongst the family of Adam and Eve? Personally, I don't know. I'm just assuming that was the scenario way back then.