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Noah's Ark Discovered ... Again and Again
Skeptical Inquirer ^ | 9-5-06 | Benjamin Radford

Posted on 09/05/2006 10:47:39 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser

In this world there are things that seem on the verge of being discovered every so often, yet never quite materialize. The "Lost City" of Atlantis, for example, has been "found" at least a half dozen times. One researcher is pretty sure it is in Bolivia; another says it is Antarctica; a third claims that Bimini beachrock may be from the lost civilization. So it is with Noah's Ark. The difference is, of course, that the implications of Noah's Ark actually being found extend far beyond archaeology. The weight of all the paired animals in the world is nothing compared to the religious freight that the Ark carries. The Ark story is scientifically implausible; there simply wouldn't be enough space on the boat to accommodate two of every living animal (including dinosaurs), along with the food and water necessary to keep them alive. Furthermore, constructing a vessel of that scale would take hundreds of workers months to complete.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dontfeedthetrolls; fables; isthistrollbadsanta; noahsark; trollthread; whatever
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"what is a SCCA?

"

For me, it will always be the Sports Car Club of America. I use to race a 1959 Sprite in their local races in Santa Barbara. They were held at the airport there....a long, long time ago.

What else it could be, I have no idea.


41 posted on 09/05/2006 11:27:43 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: johnnyjumpstart
There is a story flaoting about concerning a National Geographic expedition in the 1950's which found the Ark & returned with numerous items to the Museum Of Natural History In NY. It seems the US Government was aboard for the ride & the entire expedition was labeled top secret.

You forgot that when the Nazis captured it and popped off the top their faces melted.

42 posted on 09/05/2006 11:28:09 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: balrog666
Noah's Arc

How many degrees? :)

43 posted on 09/05/2006 11:28:54 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

The Lord said to Noah:
There's gonna be a floody, floody
The Lord said to Noah:
There's gonna be a floody, floody
Get those children out of the muddy, muddy
Children of the Lord

The Lord told Noah
To build him an arky, arky
The Lord told Noah
To build him an arky, arky
Build it out of gopher barky, barky
Children of the Lord

He called for the animals,
They came in by twosie, twosies
He called for the animals,
They came in by twosie, twosies
Elephants and kangaroosie, roosies
Children of the Lord

It rained and it poured
For forty daysie, daysies
It rained and it poured
For forty daysie, daysies
Almost drove those animals crazy, crazies,
Children of the Lord

Then Noah he sent out
He sent out a dovey dovey
Noah he sent out
He sent out a dovey dovey
Dovey said "There's clear skies abovey-bovey"
Children of the Lord

The sun came out and
It dried up the landy landy
The sun came out and
It dried up the landy landy
Everything was fine and dandy, dandy
Children of the Lord

The animals they came off
They came off by three-sies three-sies
Animals they came off
They came off by three-sies three-sies
Grizzly bears and chimpanzee-sies zee-sies
Children of the Lord

That is the end of,
The end of my story, story
That is the end of,
The end of my story, story
Everything is hunky dory, dory
Children of the Lord


44 posted on 09/05/2006 11:29:04 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: TonyRo76

Lame argument, were you there?

Prove to me that there was, tell me how you got all the species in a wooden boat. How long did it take to build it? How much food was needed? Answer some basic facts, do you believe that every animal on earth is descended from 2 of its own kind on a boat 4300 years ago?

Really, give me some proof and facts to back up your belief in this story.


45 posted on 09/05/2006 11:29:08 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Here's Noah's Arc Welding.


46 posted on 09/05/2006 11:30:48 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Central Scrutiniser
No, I am using facts and logic, and the complete lack of any proof of the existence of the ark, you are just gullible and want to believe in fables, because you think you will lose your faith if you try to think clearly about this.

So you believe. Keep it up...it's as fine a demonstration of fundamentalism as I've ever seen.

47 posted on 09/05/2006 11:30:58 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: balrog666
Noah's Arc

How many degrees? :)

48 posted on 09/05/2006 11:32:01 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Maybe that was Noah's rainbow?!



49 posted on 09/05/2006 11:33:11 AM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: Oberon

No, not fundamentalism, because the scientific method builds upon actual discoveries and facts, things that are not open to interpretation or subjectivity.

You can't expect everyone to take the fables that you believe in on faith, some of us want you to prove it.

No one here has yet explained what the animals ate when the world was trashed after the flood. What the carnivores ate when there was no meat, how specialty animals like koalas or sloth which only eat certain leaves in their habitat were able to survive, and then trek thousands of miles home and across vast oceans.

I'm waiting...


50 posted on 09/05/2006 11:34:18 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Tenacious 1
Otherwise you risk eternal damnation

Come on, we Christians can do better than that! What, you think there is an SAT test for getting into heaven, and you can fail for incorrectly guessing which parts of the Bible are literal and which ones are metaphor?

51 posted on 09/05/2006 11:34:46 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: MineralMan

yes, I was referring to the Sports Car Club of America.


Therein lies the origin of my screen name - Blueflag.


52 posted on 09/05/2006 11:36:10 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

You're wasting your time.


53 posted on 09/05/2006 11:38:57 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Deliberate ignorance is such a sad thing.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I've been through that town in "Arkansaw" you refer to, it's not far from where I live in Hot Springs(the boyhood hunting grounds of Bubba clintoon). The town is too small to have its own zip code....in fact it's so small that it only has one city limits sign. (It was renamed Falling Rock several years ago)

On a related subject, two reptiles exiting the ark where overheard telling Noah, "we'll do our best, Noah, but you know we are adders not multipliers".


54 posted on 09/05/2006 11:39:48 AM PDT by RedWireNut
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Central --

You won't get the replies you seek on this forum.

Seriously, I suggest you read "The Language of God" by Dr. Francis Collins.

It's written by a scientist, written for scientist, and written by a scientist to present EVIDENCE for faith.

This guy has top 1% of the top 1% scientific credentials. Read and follow his logic. It's impressive.

Just because you and I cannot explain the Supernatural in a natural world does not mean the Supernatural does not exist.

I feel your pain, but I have gone over to the Light side.
55 posted on 09/05/2006 11:40:08 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Blueflag

I figured. It has all changed so much since I had that little H-Production Sprite. That was back in 1965. Things were so simple, then. I'd drive the car to the race, then race it, then drive it home, assuming I hadn't done something stupid like driving into the hay bales.

You sure couldn't do that today.


56 posted on 09/05/2006 11:40:20 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
...the scientific method builds upon actual discoveries and facts, things that are not open to interpretation or subjectivity.

So you say, but you present nothing of discoveries and facts to support your own point of view; instead, you flatly declare your belief. And this is a belief that you firmly cling to, deep in your heart of hearts, because emotionally you require it to be true.

You can't expect everyone to take the fables that you believe in on faith...

Indeed...and what on earth do you imagine that I believe? I have made no claims to defend, except to point out that you are arguing from a position of faith. This requires little defense, being self-evident.

I'm waiting...

You're so cute when you tap your foot like that.

57 posted on 09/05/2006 11:40:36 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: ASA Vet

I know.

But lots of the Noah's Ark folk still haven't come to terms with the fact that all the "discoveries" were well documented frauds. I love the CBS one, the guy was an actor and the sample was just wood coated in soy sauce that was baked in an oven!

I'm in the wrong business....


58 posted on 09/05/2006 11:40:52 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Alien nanotechnology disassembled the critters at molecular level, stored the patterns on a raft to keep the electronics out of the water, and then reassembled the critters from the ambient organic muck.


59 posted on 09/05/2006 11:41:29 AM PDT by tortoise
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To: Central Scrutiniser
No, not fundamentalism, because the scientific method builds upon actual discoveries and facts, things that are not open to interpretation or subjectivity.

OK, so where is the scientific finding that there was no ark, aside from in your head?

Everyone I've ever met who believes in a literal Noah's ark also believes that the events were supernaturally controlled by God. There's no claim that it's scientifically explainable, any more than the resurrection of Christ.

60 posted on 09/05/2006 11:41:38 AM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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