Posted on 09/05/2006 10:47:39 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser
In this world there are things that seem on the verge of being discovered every so often, yet never quite materialize. The "Lost City" of Atlantis, for example, has been "found" at least a half dozen times. One researcher is pretty sure it is in Bolivia; another says it is Antarctica; a third claims that Bimini beachrock may be from the lost civilization. So it is with Noah's Ark. The difference is, of course, that the implications of Noah's Ark actually being found extend far beyond archaeology. The weight of all the paired animals in the world is nothing compared to the religious freight that the Ark carries. The Ark story is scientifically implausible; there simply wouldn't be enough space on the boat to accommodate two of every living animal (including dinosaurs), along with the food and water necessary to keep them alive. Furthermore, constructing a vessel of that scale would take hundreds of workers months to complete.
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Careful, CS...next time it may be someone in a white lab coat who offers you the Kool-Ade.
No, evidently people here feel you can't be skeptical about something religiously based. Do you feel that way?
All them Jim Jones followers sure weren't skeptical at all were they?
I started in Showroom Stock with a Spitfire 1500. Ended up in an F-Prod 1300 Spitfire. Finished with the HSR in the '90s when my well-loved British cast-iron could not compete with what effectively were Japanese exotics in F-Prod.
< sigh >
Those days are over. kids. houses. college. elderly parents. you know the drill.
BTW, the moniker "Blueflag" originated in the 1st year of my racing career - I saw the blue flag A LOT. In my last four years, though, I never finished out of the medals, and the blue flag was for the other guys.
Nor are you, where the non-existence of Noah's Ark is concerned. It's the assumption that appears to be your entire thesis, as far as this thread is concerned.
Keep going, CS. Be passionate. We love it when people believe passionately.
Some are, but not all. It's one thing to believe that there's a God and that He expressed some things in figurative language that doesn't factually describe events. CS, on the other hand, clearly denies the existence of anything supernatural and has merely picked the Ark as his preferred rhetorical battleground.
LOL 8^)
Thanks!
You did it a lot longer than I did. I finally crashed the Sprite in a race, and that was that. I never finished in the medals at all, but I sure had fun. I paid a guy $500 for that Sprite, and never touched it. After I crashed it, I sold it to another Sprite owner for $300. Hilarious fun. Too bad it's all done.
These days, it's just too expensive to race, it seems to me, and I'm too darned old. 1965 seems like an awfully long time ago.
There is more physical evidence of the existence of dragons than there is the ark.
No, I am openly asking people to prove it to me.
That no one can, should tell you something. Show me how it happened and give me the proof and I will believe it. You sure dodge the question when you are asked for some proof.
No, I don't deny the existence of anything supernatural. I posted this article because it documents the scams and hoaxes revolving around the Ark, and how gullible believers got taken for a ride.
But, based upon all the evidence (or lack thereof), I have to conclude that there was no ark and that it was merely a fable. If you have proof otherwise, please present it.
What data? What evidence do you have to assert that extra-terrestrial life "probably" exists?
Compare and contrast to the ark, theoretically it is not possible
You're misusing the word "theoretically."
and there is no proof that it could be possible nor is there any observable results that we would expect to see from it.
What, exactly, are the expected "observable results" from the existence of a wooden boat thousands of years ago?
BTW, not an attack on people of faith, just pointing out the fact that several people claiming to find the ark were con men and that the CBS story was pure hoax.
Bull. Yes, there were con men & AFAIK, no ark has ever been located. But that is just your springboard for calling theists idiots.
..........and those damn mosquitos.
Not that it matters, but what is the meaning of the story? If it didn't actually happen the story must be there for a purpose. What is the purpose? That's really two questions, or really four since the meaning is on three levels besides the narrative itself. If you need time to bone up on Hebrew and Greek, go ahead and take the time.
I would say it probably exists based upon the vast size of the universe, the number of solar systems like ours, etc. I think its Drake's equation, look it up.
The observable results for the ark story would be fossil remains of non native species from where the ark landed to where the animals are now (koala's in Europe, kangaroos, etc), as well as a valid explantion of how all the animals got home when there was no food and how they managed to populate the entire species based upon only one male and one female representative, without chromosonal damage based upon the inbreeding that had to occur from such a scenario.
Show me the proof that I just asked for. I am not calling theists idiots, evidently you feel overly defensive about it.
Of course you do. You flatly state that a particular claim is false, because a satisfactory naturalistic explanation cannot be provided. And you have already expressed your contempt for the notion of 'miracles.' If you allowed for the possibility of supernatural intervention, then you'd have done neither.
Its all greek to me. There were lots of fables to teach people, same goes with Jonah living inside a whale, a nice story, but implausable.
Christ mentioned the flood, He also mentioned that he would rise from the dead. After he was killed his followers ran away and hid for their lives.
They stopped hiding after He came to them after he died. His formerly cowardly band of followers died saying Christ rose from the dead.
I'm going to take Christ's word on Noah no matter who tells me it was just a story to teach people.
There are allot of things that can't be understood. I've had stuff happen to me that seemed miraculous. I don't know why they happen, but I never deny that they did.
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