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Christian faces court over 'offensive' gay festival leaflets
This London ^ | September 6, 2006

Posted on 09/06/2006 6:53:01 AM PDT by NYer


Evangelical Christian Stephen Green handed out 'offensive' leaflets

A police force was caught up in a freedom of speech row after its officers arrested an anti-gay campaigner for handing out leaflets at a homosexual rally.

South Wales police admitted evangelical Christian Stephen Green was then charged purely because his pamphlets contained anti-gay quotations from the Bible.

Mr Green faces a court appearance today charged with using 'threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour' after his attempt to distribute the leaflets at the weekend 'Mardi Gras' event in Cardiff.

A spokesman for the police said the campaigner had not behaved in a violent or aggressive manner, but that officers arrested him because 'the leaflet contained Biblical quotes about homosexuality'.

The arrest of Mr Green by the South Wales Minorities Support Unit provoked a furious row.
Church of England evangelicals said it represented 'an onslaught on freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression' and Tory MPs called it 'disturbing'.

The decision to prosecute Mr Green is the latest in a series of police initiatives aimed against those who have expressed public disapproval of homosexual behaviour.

In recent months incidents have included a Metropolitan Police warning to author Lynette Burrows that she was responsible for a 'homophobic incident' after she suggesting on a BBC Radio Five Live programme that gays did not make ideal adoptive parents.

Another warning about future behaviour was delivered by Lancashire police who visited the home of a Christian couple after they complained about their local council's gay rights policies.

The Met Police in London also investigated former Muslim Council of Britain leader Sir Iqbal Sacranie after he gave an interview saying homosexuality was harmful. However, no prosecution followed in that case.

The action against Mr Green came after he and a fellow member of his evangelical group, Christian Voice, tried to distribute leaflets at the gay Mardi Gras event in Cardiff.

Several thousand people attended the event, which included a gay rugby tournament and a 'top gayer motor show', and which was addressed on the importance of tolerance by Liberal Democrat council chief Rodney Berman.

The anti-gay campaigners were first asked by police to leave the site of the show following 'complaints from the public', and complied with the request. However, they were approached again by police when they began handing out leaflets at the entrance to the park where the Mardi Gras was staged.

Mr Green refused to stop distributing leaflets and was arrested, and then questioned for four hours at a police station. He was charged after refusing a caution.

The leaflets were headed Same-Sex Love - Same-Sex Sex: What does the Bible Say?, and included a series of quotations from the 1611 King James Bible, a text usually regarded as one of the foundation stones of the English language.

Aimed at demonstrating Biblical disapproval of homosexual sex, they included from the Old Testament Leviticus 18.22, 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination'.

The leaflets also quoted Romans 1:25-27 from the New Testament, to the effect that homosexuals are given to 'vile affections'.

The handbills urged homosexuals to 'turn from your sins and you will be saved'.

The charge against Mr Green is that he used 'threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby', contrary to the Public Order Act 1986.

Mr Green's Christian Voice group is regarded by other evangelicals as particularly militant and it has been heavily involved in demonstrations against theatre performances of Jerry Springer the Opera. However, Mr Green has no record of violence or intimidation.

He said yesterday: 'I am astonished that South Wales Police have a special unit dedicated to silencing those who disagree with homosexuality.'

He said that the force boasts of working closely with gay groups and added: 'Maybe they work a bit too closely when an evangelist can be victimised simply because he is giving out leaflets quoting verses from the same Bible police officers swear on in court.'
There was strong support for Mr Green from other Christian groups yesterday.

The Reverend Rod Thomas, a Plymouth vicar and spokesman for the influential Reform organisation that represents 500 Church of England clergy, said: 'The methods of Christian Voice do not always commend themselves to other Christians.

'But if there was nothing involved here other than the content of the leaflets, the arrest represents an onslaught on freedom of speech and on freedom of religious expression.

'Why gay rights are regarded as more important that freedom of expression I do not know. There is a real danger that those who have tried to support gay rights for liberal reasons may find themselves responsible for suppressing vital liberties.'

Tory MP Douglas Carswell, a member of the Parliamentary Human Rights Committee, said: 'I disagree with Mr Green's views but I feel very strongly that he should be allowed to express them.'

The Harwich and Clacton MP added: 'I take a liberal view on sexuality but I am disturbed that the police should show so much vigour in arresting this man and bringing him before the courts. I am deeply worried about the implications for freedom of expression.'

Colin Hart of the Christian Institute think tank said: 'This was a very gentle leaflet. There was no use of words like "perversion". I have to wonder if churches, bishops and archbishops are now vulnerable to arrest for their views on homosexuality.

'It is noticeable that police never arrest Muslims who make remarks about homosexuality. They pick on Christians because it is easy, just as they pick on middle class drivers for speeding because it is easier than catching burglars.'


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To: NYer
The Met Police in London also investigated former Muslim Council of Britain leader Sir Iqbal Sacranie after he gave an interview saying homosexuality was harmful. However, no prosecution followed in that case.

Don't worry folks, this is the good news.

The politically correct humanists will push this on the Muslims, too. This will in turn, foment further Muslim unrest and fundamentalism, accelarating the onset of a violent social revolution in which the Muslims assume power and impose sharia.

Homosexual problem solved.

'Course, an extremist Islamic state will now have arisen, bringing with it an entirely new set of issues and problems, but that's another story. At least the celebration of sodomy won't be one of them.

21 posted on 09/06/2006 7:34:29 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: TonyRo76

Hitler was also a vegetarian, yet another reason to be suspicious of the left.


22 posted on 09/06/2006 7:40:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: TonyRo76

Moral absolute dittos!

This is why morals matter - for all those that think buying Ford, Kodak and Walmart doesnt matter then this is the type of country you will be faced with. All of these companies are pushing to instill moral relativism - Christians need to stand up and fight this battle with their pocketbook. It is better to spend a little more and support companies which support your freedom of religion than save a dollar and support companies which want you to be silent.


23 posted on 09/06/2006 7:41:18 AM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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To: NYer

Those are some ugly girls!


24 posted on 09/06/2006 7:42:28 AM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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25 posted on 09/06/2006 7:43:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NYer
He said yesterday: 'I am astonished that South Wales Police have a special unit dedicated to silencing those who disagree with homosexuality.'

This is just further proof that the once mighty Christian bastion, Britain, has relegated Christianity to the trash heap.
26 posted on 09/06/2006 7:44:43 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: NYer

"Good evening sir! I 'ear you've been sayin' some rather unpleasant things about our queer community! Would you mind comin' down to the station with me, if it's not too much trouble? My guv'na would like a few words with you."

27 posted on 09/06/2006 7:46:15 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: wagglebee

If passages from the Bible are illegal then how far is a ban of the Bible behind?


28 posted on 09/06/2006 7:46:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy

The way the left has bastardized our Constitution, a Bible that is visible from public property is basically forbidden.


29 posted on 09/06/2006 7:51:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: P-40
It would have been funny if he had been using quotations from the koran instead of the Bible. :)

That's not just funny, it raises a valid question that the PC crowd must address. What do you do when one PC-protected group offends another? They can't let the offense against gays slide, yet they can't criticize the religious beliefs of Muslims.

30 posted on 09/06/2006 7:55:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
What do you do when one PC-protected group offends another?

I suppose they would do something along the lines of what happens here in America when one protected group offends another protected group...either ignore it or blame the behavior on a non-protected group.
31 posted on 09/06/2006 8:00:05 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: NYer
As if being gay, especially in public, isn't offensive. Lets get a grip on reality. Would you be OK with homosexuals grabbing each others genitalia and french kissing in front of your 8 year old?
32 posted on 09/06/2006 8:14:43 AM PDT by sportsterinred
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To: RobbyS
It is noticeable that police never arrest Muslims who make remarks about homosexuality.

I've heard about large anti-British (as in "behead those who defame Mohammed" and pro-911 attack rallies) rallies of protesting muslims with no charges of "hatred" or "violence".

33 posted on 09/06/2006 8:22:49 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: massgopguy

The British government won't require an outright ban on the Bible. They will just require a censored edition being published. Like the Clinton autobiography that had to remove some of the statments Bubba made that were libelous under British law.


34 posted on 09/06/2006 8:24:45 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: NYer
Gay Rugby....

Are the rules for Rugby any different when played by Normal people, as opposed to played by Gay people?

35 posted on 09/06/2006 8:30:27 AM PDT by BoneHead (Retorical Questions posed daily)
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To: NYer

Unfortunately it's just a small hop across the pond....


36 posted on 09/06/2006 8:44:56 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: scripter

It's the UK, not the US, but significant. This is the next step if the gay agenda promoters have their way.

Note this:

He said yesterday: 'I am astonished that South Wales Police have a special unit dedicated to silencing those who disagree with homosexuality.'

This is seriously ominous. And the Muslim dude wasn't punished...they are afraid of Muslims.


37 posted on 09/06/2006 9:11:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: NYer

@$#$#@$, i was eating when i started reading this thread.


38 posted on 09/06/2006 9:22:39 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: little jeremiah

Ping!


39 posted on 09/06/2006 9:43:19 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: P-40

Have Jay Sekulow represent this brave guy and tell the gays that the First Amendment applies to opponents of their gay life styles, militancy and other issues which try to change America's view of marriage and society. Frankly, it is time to tell these people that the majority will be as militant as they are as far as legal issues.


40 posted on 09/06/2006 11:29:58 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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