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White on white: Nation's first ever 'whiteness' survey provides new insight on race
Eureka Alert--U of Minnesota ^ | 9-6-06 | David Ruth

Posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:04 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: ProCivitas
"3. Uphold constitutional right of 'freedom of association'."
It's the freedom of dissociation.
81 posted on 09/06/2006 10:33:12 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: donmeaker
"Now me, I am kind of spotty. What race is that? "
Ask the dermatologist for a biopsy. Some of these spots can go REAL bad.
82 posted on 09/06/2006 10:35:37 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: ClearCase_guy

If one looks around in Ca., the SW of the USA and some areas in the NE, I was astonished that any whites were available for the polling and study! And as far as cultural contributions, history books in the public schools have all but erased those of Anglos, white Europeans who after all are just old white dead guys.


83 posted on 09/06/2006 10:47:08 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: donmeaker
> Now me, I am kind of spotty. What race is that?

Dalmatian? ;)
Actually, I got lots of freckles my own self.
84 posted on 09/06/2006 10:49:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Nice to know that Southerners are classified and lumped into the category of racial phobics. These pinheads who did this survey are full of bull fertilizer!


85 posted on 09/06/2006 3:36:05 PM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Thermo-Nuclear Landscapers Inc. "Need a change of scenery? We deliver!")
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To: Bommer

No, Homer Simpson is yellow.


86 posted on 09/06/2006 4:09:19 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (The investigation was a hoax. Fitz should be brought up on charges.)
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To: Pharmboy
My "white privileges" appear to include being discriminated against by most employers and educational establishments.

Is there a drop-off box where I can return them?

87 posted on 09/06/2006 4:19:33 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Pharmboy

Hoover Institute
http://www.hoover.org/publications/he/2896296.html

Race, Culture, and Equality
Thomas Sowell

Executive Summary

In his remarks at the Commonwealth Club of California on June 18, 1998, Thomas Sowell discussed the conclusions he reached after spending fifteen years researching the economic and social impacts of cultural differences among peoples and nations around the world. This essay, Race, Culture, and Equality, distills the results found in the trilogy that was published during these years---Race and Culture (1994), Migrations and Cultures (1996), and Conquests and Cultures (1998).

The most obvious and inescapable finding from these years of research is that huge disparities in income and wealth have been the rule, not the exception, in countries around the world and over centuries of human history. Real income consists of outputs and these outputs have been radically different because the inputs have been radically different from peoples with different cultures.

Geography alone creates profound differences among peoples. It is not simply that such natural wealth as oil and gold are very unequally distributed around the world. More fundamentally, people themselves are different because of different levels of access to other peoples and cultures. Isolated peoples have always lagged behind those with greater access to a wider world, whether isolation has been the result of mountains, jungles, widely scattered islands or other geographic barriers.

Cities have been in the vanguard of cultural, technological and economic progress in virtually every civilization. But the geographic settings in which cities flourish are by no means equally distributed around the globe. Urbanization has been correspondingly unequally developed in different geographic regions--most prevalent among the networks of navigable waterways in Western Europe and least prevalent where such waterways are most lacking in tropical Africa.

If geography is not egalitarian, neither is demography. When the median age of Jews in the United States is 20 years older than the median age of Puerto Ricans, then there is no way that these two groups could be equally represented in jobs requiring long years of experience, in retirement homes or in sports. Even if they were identical in every other way, radically different age distributions would prevent their being equal in incomes or occupations.

Discrimination is also one of the many factors operating against equality. But even if all human beings behaved like saints toward one another, the other factors would still make equality of income and wealth virtually impossible to achieve.

Neither geography nor history can be undone but we can at least avoid artificially creating cultural isolation under glittering names like "multiculturalism."

Click on link for Essay & Notes


88 posted on 09/07/2006 5:55:02 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Calvin Locke
Asians have to get a 1600 (at the time) on their SATs to be admitted to the "elite" schools. The ones that get screwed are white males and very-smart-but-not-quite-perfect Asians.

The point is that large numbers/proportions of the Asian applicants were getting 1600 on their SAT's.

That's called "driven".

Little story (true one): The son of a former co-worker of mine was a student at Texas A&M 15-20 years ago. He was a hard enough worker, spent plenty of time in the A&M library. One night he was studying there and missed hearing the closing bell, lost in study, and got himself locked in. Suddenly the lights went out, and the emergency/night lights came on. He looked around, and suddenly realized that under every one of the night lights, squarely in the middle of their little pools of floodlight, was an Asian student. They'd been sitting and studying in those spots all evening, and he hadn't thought anything of it. But then he realized that every one of them had chosen those spots hours before, right under the lights. That was when he realized that these people were fanatics, and that they were competing with him at that level. Or more to the point, they weren't competing with him any more. That story was already over.

So I wonder, is it time to say hello to our future, meritocratic policy elite, the successors to the "neocons"? If so, the good news is, there won't be any mortal conflict with China. The Chinese over there and the Chinese over here will come up with a friendly solution to all outstanding issues and problems, and implement it so smoothly that we'll never even hear the click.

89 posted on 09/08/2006 12:06:08 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: wtc911
The dozens were recorded IIRC by Ralph Ellison in The Invisible Man as follows (from memory):

If you're white, you're right, you're out of sight.
If you're yellow, how mellow, you're one of the fellows.
If you're brown, stick around; there's room for you in town.
But if you're black, God help you, get back!

The reference was to shadings of skin tone among the "colored" (black) community. Or, as Ellison was pointing out, not-so-community.

Jamaican society in the 19th and early 20th centuries was ruled by skin tone disguised as a "class" system. The boundary between "colored" and "white", however, was somewhat permeable. The son of an person who was only 1/8th African ("octoroon") and another who was white was called "statutory white" and could "pass" in theory.

This system of deflecting racial identity and turning it into a class system was threatened by the arrival of Marcus Garvey. It was the elite of "colored" society who drove Garvey out of Jamaica, whereupon he came to America to preach racial separatism and begin his "back to Africa" movement.

The Jamaican shadings of color, however, paled next to the excimiating recordation of every possible combination of ethnicities in Spanish-speaking New World societies, which had over 40 different words for different admixtures of black, white, and Amerindian parentage -- which were recorded on baptismal certificates, and affixed to their owners for life, determining their place in society. Such words as cholo, cimarron, chino, jibaro, salta atras, tente in el aire, albino, mestizo, negro fino, ochavado, pardo, prieto, cuatrero, and many, many more were used to fix a person's place in the demographic spectrum of the Spanish Empire and its successor societies.

And chicanos call whites "racist".

90 posted on 09/08/2006 12:39:16 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Pharmboy

Yup, time for another round of scab-picking over skin color.

What race am I?

Human.


91 posted on 09/08/2006 12:40:41 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I first heard it on the job in early seventies in Harlem.


92 posted on 09/08/2006 2:10:11 PM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911
Ellison wrote Invisible Man in the 40's, iirc, and that chestnut had been around for a couple of generations at that point.
93 posted on 09/09/2006 3:28:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I read Ellison but couldn't get past the noble suffering. Chester Himes was to my mind a better window into that part of our society at that time.


94 posted on 09/09/2006 5:33:15 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911
I'm unfamiliar with Chester Himes. Ellison was required reading in many places in the 60's. I read him in 1969, when I was picking up my one last needed English credit which my advisor had overlooked before completing my degree requirements. That one last semester put me in the Navy not the Army, and sent me to the Atlantic Fleet instead of Vietnam, where the shriveled-up old man-hater down at the Draft Board fully intended I should go.
95 posted on 09/09/2006 6:05:15 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Chester Himes....a Black Raymond Chandler with a sense of humor. He wrote 'Blind Man with a Pistol' and 'Cotton Comes to Harlem' among others. Worth checking out for a look at that world in that time.


96 posted on 09/09/2006 10:20:29 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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