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Gun issue remains controversial
Swiss Info.org (Switzerland) ^ | 9/27/06 | n/a

Posted on 09/28/2006 9:49:14 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Parliament has been discussing changes to Swiss gun laws exactly five years after the country's worst shooting incident.

But observers warn the changes, which will bring Switzerland in line with European Union guidelines and which were approved by the Senate in June, are unlikely to prevent future gun attacks.

The EU's Schengen accord on cross-border crime lays down minimum requirements for acquiring and possessing firearms. Swiss voters agreed to sign up to the agreement last year and it is due to come into force in the country in the near future.

However, questions have already been raised within the EU as to the usefulness of the guidelines.

EU regulations on guns require the authorities in its member states to approve weapons purchases.

But acquisitions of sport and hunting guns may be announced after purchase, which is how a young man in Antwerp, Belgium was able to purchase a weapon and randomly kill two people during a racist shooting spree earlier this year.

Switzerland has also had its share of shooting incidents. Exactly five years ago, a gunman shot and killed 14 people in Zug's cantonal parliament, before turning the gun on himself.

He used his army rifle – under the country's militia system Swiss men are allowed to store their army guns at home. The killings shocked a country which until then had seen little gun crime.

Church bells rang throughout the canton of Zug on Wednesday at midday in remembrance and a commemorative service was held in the city in the evening.

The issue of gun safety came to the fore again earlier this year when a retired Swiss ski star, Corinne Rey-Bellet, was killed by her estranged husband with his army pistol.

EU regulations

The EU regulations only set down the minimum requirements. Some member states, such as Britain, have already imposed their own tougher rules.

The Swiss amendments tighten existing legislation only slightly. They include introducing a mandatory permit for purchasing or keeping all types of firearms, which is not at present necessary for all weapons. The move still needs to be approved by the House of Representatives.

The law also foresees a ban on anonymous sales through the internet or small ads, and an obligation to report sales between private individuals.

Improvement

"This is a clear improvement," said Jürg Bühler, from the Federal Police Office. "Gun deals among private people that used to take place quickly and informally at motorway service stations will clearly be illegal in the future."

However, hunters, sports shooters and collectors are exempt from giving a reason for purchase.

"A gun which is used to shoot a wild boar can also kill a person," said Bühler. But he added that statistically seen not many hunting guns were used in crimes. "Swiss legislators have therefore decided here to make a less complex rule."

Attempts to toughen the law even further were stifled by resistance from the powerful gun lobby. Government and parliament did not want to give the organisations a reason to fight the Schengen referendum. In the end, only a small part of the pressure group opposed the treaty.

The Belgian gun lobby is also strong and well organised, but the country has been deeply shocked by the Antwerp shootings. The Belgian parliament has already put a stop to the easy purchase of hunting guns.

It is now targeting the country's estimated two million unregistered guns. This is acknowledged to be a vital step.

**** PRIVATE GUN STORES

No exact figures exist for EU gun ownership. The Geneva-based group, the Small Arms Survey, estimates that there are around 67 million firearms in the 15 original members of the EU.

The Finns are the most heavily armed at 30 guns per 100 inhabitants, followed by the French and the Germans. The Dutch have only two guns per 100 inhabitants.

Switzerland, with 16 guns per 100 inhabitants, is in the middle. If army rifles were taken into account, the country could be considered one of the most heavily armed, with two million private and military guns in existence.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 09/28/2006 9:49:14 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Sorry to hear that Switzerland is sliding down that slippery slope.


2 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:34 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA)
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To: kiriath_jearim
If army rifles were taken into account, [Switerland] could be considered one of the most heavily armed...

Hence...their excessively high gun violence rate (/sarc)

3 posted on 09/28/2006 9:53:18 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The Finns are the most heavily armed at 30 guns per 100 inhabitants

What's the equivalent statistic for the US ?

4 posted on 09/28/2006 9:54:03 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: kiriath_jearim

"But observers warn the changes, which will bring Switzerland in line with European Union guidelines..."

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Yes, it's sooo important to be in line with EU guidelines. In fact, from 1939-45 most of Europe was "in line" with somebody else's guidelines...a "goose-stepping line dance", so to speak...dancing the ol' Schickelgruber Two-Step.


5 posted on 09/28/2006 9:56:04 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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"He used his army rifle – under the country's militia system Swiss men are allowed to store their army guns at home"

YGTBSM!!!
6 posted on 09/28/2006 9:58:30 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Blame the inanimate object instead of the nutcase who used it. Looks like hot chocolate isn't the only thing the Swiss is drinking.


7 posted on 09/28/2006 9:58:34 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: kiriath_jearim
The Finns are the most heavily armed at 30 guns per 100 inhabitants, followed by the French and the Germans. The Dutch have only two guns per 100 inhabitants.

This is very interesting. I know that Finland has an excellent gun industry (rifles, powder, etc.). What are the gun laws like in Finland?

8 posted on 09/28/2006 9:59:50 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"A gun which is used to shoot a wild boar can also kill a person,"

I love these straw-man arguments. It's like saying "a car which can carry passengers can also be used to smuggle drugs."

So what?

9 posted on 09/28/2006 10:02:18 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Switzerland used to have the best gun laws in the world ....... almost none at all ........ went to see the Alps on a weekend pass while stationed in Germany(1971-72) ...... wasn't unusual to see 2or3 12 year old kids bicycling to the range together with rifles slung on their shoulders ......... I suppose that will change(if it hasn't already) ........ the infulence of the EU libs is spreading like the disease it is


10 posted on 09/28/2006 10:02:30 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: 1066AD
According to this account, Americans own between 83 and 96 guns per 100 persons, or nearly one per person. The Finns are lightweights!
11 posted on 09/28/2006 10:06:06 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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> According to this account, Americans own between 83 and 96 guns per 100 persons, or nearly one per person <


That number has GOT to be an undercount, IMHO:

Who in his right mind -- whether he be a law-abiding citizen or a felon -- is going to tell a survey-taker how many firearms he possesses?

In any case, my offhand guess is that the USA has at least twice as many firearms as people, or at least 200 guns per 100 people.


12 posted on 09/28/2006 10:19:03 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

Personally, I own two handguns, one shotgun and seven rifles.


13 posted on 09/28/2006 10:28:15 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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Personally, I own two handguns, one shotgun and seven rifles.

My basic household set is two handguns, two shotguns, ten rifles. Don't know how many my GF has, probably a half-set.

14 posted on 09/28/2006 10:38:32 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: kiriath_jearim

If this trend continues the Swiss citizens will be left with nothing to defend themselves except their service pistols, select-fire assault rifles, sniper rifles, RPG's, artillery, explosive demolisions, LAV's, tanks, fighter jets, and bombers.


15 posted on 09/29/2006 4:23:04 AM PDT by Old Dirty Bastiat
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