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Hastert: Scandal Is 'October Surprise'
NewsMax ^ | Oct. 6, 2006 | Ronald Kessler

Posted on 10/06/2006 8:59:51 AM PDT by stm

Calling the timing "suspicious," House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert said the delay in disclosing former Rep. Mark Foley's improper messages to male pages has put kids at risk.

In an interview with NewsMax.com late Thursday, Hastert said anyone who knew of the sordid instant messages Foley was sending to congressional pages should have notified authorities immediately.

"If somebody knew of these messages and didn't come forward, they're putting kids in jeopardy -- for a year, for a month or for a day," the Illinois Republican said. Press reports indicate that several of Mark Foley's instant messages were three years old. Other media outlets have confirmed that one or more third parties were shopping a story about Foley's e-mail almost a year ago.

As evidence that Democrats were involved in the timing, Hastert said the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had Foley's explicit electronic messages before Hastert did.

"The DCCC was ready to go," Hastert said. "We were told by sources that they had that information on a Thursday night before we did, or Wednesday. They were up ahead of us for a day before we ever knew it was going to happen [on Friday]."

Hastert said the messages came out "on the last day after Foley can't get his name off the ballot, and we're leaving for a national campaign, and then this thing falls. It's kind of an October surprise, I guess you'd call it."

When he saw the Washington Times editorial calling for his resignation, Hastert said he wondered what Tony Blankley, the editorial page editor, was thinking.

"Why didn't he talk to me?" Hastert asked. "I've known him for years. I could've told him a lot of things that he took for granted that weren't necessarily right. I'm not angry. I figure this is politics. I've learned that you don't get angry in this business, because if you do, you don't get too many things done."

If he resigned as speaker, Hastert said, "That would throw us in a whole speaker's race right in the middle of an election, which means we wouldn't get our message out. And I think that would be cataclysmic to the party, it'd be cataclysmic for our message, and would not be good, period, for anybody."

President Bush on Thursday called Hastert to thank him for the way he has handled the matter.

"The president thanked him for going out and making a clear public statement that said the House leadership takes responsibility and is accountable," White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said.

Also yesterday, the House Ethics Committee voted unanimously to set up an investigative subcommittee to look into the scandal.

On Thursday in an appearance outside his district office in Batavia, Ill., Hastert said he and Republican House leaders were "taking responsibility" in the matter and that "the buck stops here." But he said he personally has not "done anything wrong,"

Most accounts in the mainstream press report that Hastert's office was told about Foley's more innocuous messages last fall. They usually do not add that his office took immediate action or that the Miami Herald and the St. Petersburg Times saw the same messages and thought they were simply "friendly chit chat" and not worth a story.

In fact, after being told that the e-mails were "over-friendly" but not sexual, Hastert's office informed the clerk of the House, who contacted Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., the chairman of the Page Board. Shimkus and the clerk then met with Foley, a Florida Republican, and told him he should cease any communication with the page who had received the messages.

Hastert's office never saw the messages because of a desire by the page's mother to protect his privacy.

"You know, the press has its own values and where it wants to be," Hastert said. "The fact is I really didn't know any of this stuff until last Friday, almost a week ago. And when I did, Foley was gone within an hour."

Immediately following the disclosures of Foley's explicit messages last Friday, Hastert asked attorney general Alberto Gonzalez to begin a federal probe of Foley and the case.

Double Standard

That "didn't necessarily happen" with past scandals involving congressmen such as Republican Daniel B. Crane of Illinois and Democrat Gerry Studds of Massachusetts, Hastert said. "But we acted when we found out. So in that sense, there is a double standard [in the way the press has treated the current scandal and the Republican leadership]."

Hastert said he looked out the window of his home in Illinois last night and saw at least a dozen trucks.

"I thought I was in Folsom Prison with lights shining on my house and in the windows and in the bedroom," he said. "I thought. ‘Man, what's going on here?' That was at three o'clock in the morning. So the press is there, and they're feeding on this, and I don't think they have much more to talk about in Washington right now, so it's just full time. They're looking for a story, for sure."

As for claims by Kirk Fordham, a former aide to Foley, that he informed Hastert's office of problems with Foley and pages at least two years ago, Hastert said, "You know, people are making accusations that haven't been proven. We're going to have an investigation, we've got the FBI and the Justice Department and the attorney general in Florida doing investigations, plus the House ethics committee. I hope to get down to the bottom of this -- who knew when, where, whatever."

Referring to Fordham, Hastert said, "I know what he is saying now, and what he said two or three days ago, that he worked for the man for 10 years, and he [Foley] never did anything wrong. So there's a little discrepancy in the descriptions here."

Fordham's lawyer named Scott Palmer, Hastert's chief of staff, as one of the people Fordham allegedly talked with about Foley's inappropriate behavior with pages. Fordham said the discussion took place sometime between 2002 and 2004.

Palmer said, "What Kirk Fordham said did not happen."

Louis Freeh

Hastert said he talked with former FBI Director Louis Freeh about heading the investigation into the page scandal, but Freeh said he would have to have the agreement of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

"I ran that by her, and she just wasn't going to do anything," Hastert said.

Asked if he thinks the page program should be ended, Hastert said, "We've had the page program since 1822. A lot of people in politics today came through the page program and learned a lot from it. It's a huge chance in a lifetime to do something like that if a kid's interested in government. But on the other hand, I've asked that we bring a blue ribbon panel to make sure whatever we do in the future is safe. I think that's [ending the program] one of the alternatives we honestly have to look at. We're going to find the best people, and we're going to work at it."

Hastert said the scandal will have some effect in the November elections. But he said, "I think most of these races are local races, and they're going to vote on what their congressman says that he or she is going to do. But it does affect some people. What we need to do is turn it around, and I hope we can quickly."

No Ideas

Hastert said the Democrats will feed on the scandal because they have no ideas or substantive strategy for improving and protecting the country.

"What we try to do, and what we have done, is try to move forward on our border security issues; we've done that," Hastert said. "We also have taken on terrorism and passed a lot of legislation on that. We've got the best economy we've had in years, with the stock market as high as it's ever been in the history of the U.S."

In addition, "We've cut taxes and kept those tax cuts," he said. "So as a result, the economy's been great. And we've worked on energy independence, and we want to continue to work on that. So I think we have a good message to tell the American voter. I don't think the Democrats have a good message. So I think probably this whole issue of scandal just hits their agenda quite well.


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A somewhat restating of the obvious but a good read nonetheless.
1 posted on 10/06/2006 8:59:52 AM PDT by stm
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To: stm

Good for Hastert.


2 posted on 10/06/2006 9:01:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: stm
It's the "October Boring" is what it is. Does any normal person who's not a complete freaky voyeur themselves really have any interest in this story any longer? It's been a week already. Foley is gone. Move on.

ABC News ought to look into Brian Ross' "habits." He seems to get off on this just a little too much

3 posted on 10/06/2006 9:05:36 AM PDT by MikeA (Foley has resigned. Bin Laden has not. That is what 's at stake in this election, not some pervert.)
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To: stm

Well it looks like the Dem's little surprise did not work..they have a few more weeks to shoot themselves in the foot again..maybe if they would just stop trying so hard to get rid of any Republican they can or think they can...Like I said yesterday we conservatives are not like the trash that vote Democrat..The Jerry Springer crowd...


4 posted on 10/06/2006 9:05:53 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: stm
Good on ya Mr. Speaker.
This is exactly the type of thing that must be said.

Let's hear more of it!

5 posted on 10/06/2006 9:05:54 AM PDT by evad (sarcasm may be introduced at any moment of any post)
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To: stm
"You know, the press has its own values and where it wants to be," Hastert said. "The fact is I really didn't know any of this stuff until last Friday, almost a week ago. And when I did, Foley was gone within an hour."

Excellent. Denny did exactly what he was supposed to do.

All of you supposed Republicans calling for his resignation need to stand down.
6 posted on 10/06/2006 9:09:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (Attention GOP---Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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To: stm
It was a double "surprise", with Woodword timing his book release as he did, and then this Foley set-up. Never let it be said that the 'Rats don't play dirtier than anyone else out there.
7 posted on 10/06/2006 9:09:23 AM PDT by chimera
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To: stm
The Speaker has a very good grip on exactly what is going on...I am pleased to see he is fully aware of the how & why this came out at this time.

Yesterday I sent him an email of support and telling him to hang TOUGH against Peloski and her worker bees.

8 posted on 10/06/2006 9:09:24 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Beth528
Meanwhile, Karl Rove, that magnificent bastard, is hard at work on a real October surprise.

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9 posted on 10/06/2006 9:14:47 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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If this is the best Carville and Co. have got, we're in pretty good shape.

The Foley mess, weighed against the national disaster that would be the result of Dems in charge of the Congress, comes up light as a feather.

We've got a month just ahead of what will be the maximum expenditure of resources on Republican message possible.

We're going to kick their butts.

Perhaps we should thank the slimeballs for firing up our troops.


10 posted on 10/06/2006 9:16:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What man doesn't know about God's creation is still enough to fill a universe...)
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To: stm

The Super Mega ZOT of the Dims. They will all explode.


11 posted on 10/06/2006 9:16:59 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: stm

Personally, I respect the Speaker quite a bit more now than I did before this contrived scandal broke.


12 posted on 10/06/2006 9:17:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What man doesn't know about God's creation is still enough to fill a universe...)
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Excellent article, many good points, and Hastert makes an excellent impression, answering these furious charges calmly.

I wish the MSM would carry some of this, but NewsMax is very widely read among conservatives, at least.

One point deserves emphasis, because I don't think I've seen it made. The timing before the election is obvious, but there was another aspect of the timing that deserves emphasis and should be spread around to as many people as possible:

Hastert said the messages came out "on the last day after Foley can't get his name off the ballot, and we're leaving for a national campaign, and then this thing falls. It's kind of an October surprise, I guess you'd call it."

13 posted on 10/06/2006 9:18:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: stm

So they have some good basis for saying the DCCC had the lurid IMs at least one day before Hastert was told of them -- that's a big deal, it shows that whoever was doing this WAS aware of the political implications, and wanted to help the democrats take advantage of it.


14 posted on 10/06/2006 9:19:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: stm
"If somebody knew of these messages and didn't come forward, they're putting kids in jeopardy -- for a year, for a month or for a day,"

About freaking time Hastert came out with this line. Took him long enough, though.

15 posted on 10/06/2006 9:21:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: EternalVigilance
I respect the Speaker quite a bit more now while not calling for his dismissal I certainly thought he was toast, very happy I was wrong and think he is handling this well.
16 posted on 10/06/2006 9:22:32 AM PDT by SF Republican
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So he knows it was an October Surprise, and he knows that Pelosi is involved. Why doesn't the FBI go after Pelosi?

Hey, Nancy! Tell us about Christopher Katsaros.


17 posted on 10/06/2006 9:23:33 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: stm; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Sam Hill; Howlin; Mo1; Miss Marple; nopardons
Pelosi is shown getting a severe case of Gavel Interuptus, yesterday and today.

How many of Pelosi's Gay Staffers from Gay Frisco were/are active homosexual predators, and when did Pelosi know about them.

18 posted on 10/06/2006 9:25:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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"If somebody knew of these messages and didn't come forward, they're putting kids in jeopardy -- for a year, for a month or for a day,"

This is the issue. If our guys did it, they should be OUT. IF the dems did it too, they should be OUT also.

19 posted on 10/06/2006 9:26:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (The MSM, like Larry Flynt, care about scandals only when there's an "R" by the name...)
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Guys, it's time to let these threads die and get back to the War on Terror. Nothing will get it off the screen faster than disinterest. Campaign on the WOT and we hold Congress.


20 posted on 10/06/2006 9:28:38 AM PDT by Owen
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