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Tehran Fears U.S. Attack [USS Eisenhower, Enterprise]
ADKNI ^ | 10/11/06 | freedom44

Posted on 10/11/2006 2:35:42 PM PDT by freedom44

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To: Psychotronic Weapon
Secondly, we need to stay out of the Middle East and tap into our oil. Let these guys fight each other, they're quick to battle each other anyways -- why should we use our troops?

Mostly, considering the severity of the threat of radical Islam, we don't use our troops and we do let them fight each other.

That's been the battle plan in the WOT.

141 posted on 10/11/2006 5:54:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Drew68
My grandson served on the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71). Stay safe! Tell all on board we FReepers are thinking and praying for our armed forces each and every day!

Frank

142 posted on 10/11/2006 5:55:51 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Psychotronic Weapon
Ok, this is NOT a game of RISK. We're sending real live people like you and me, who have families and loved ones praying they'll come home safely.

I fully understand that. I'm still waiting for your answer; it is an interesting question.

Americans have bought into this "consumerist culture" anyways. It wouldn't hurt to NOT buy that extra "nicety" and put it towards gas if that's what it takes.

Interesting. You talk about how "Americans" should give up an undefined standard of living, but you are reticent about (a) just how much you would demand your neighbor give up, and (b) just how much you yourself would be willing to give up. It's rather similar to how Democrats say "soak the rich" without defining who "the rich" are and how they would be "soaked."

143 posted on 10/11/2006 6:49:31 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: El Gato

PW is a troll.. Pay it no mind.


144 posted on 10/11/2006 7:13:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Psychotronic Weapon
Why should we be worrying about the Middle East in the first place? Tell me a good reason why? (When we could drill for our own oil)

Because we can't remotely produce that much oil, and even if we had all that oil under our own soil (we don't) it would still take us many years to ramp up our production to make use of it.

The bottom line is that our economy needs mideast oil to keep flowing as fast as can be arranged.

145 posted on 10/11/2006 7:28:08 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Psychotronic Weapon
There's absolutely no reason why we should be in the Middle East.

Oh? Reason has something to do with it? Please inlighten us with the reasonableness of all the islamist attacks on western civilization?

146 posted on 10/11/2006 8:00:27 PM PDT by DonnerT (Global Idiologic Genocide!)
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To: LC HOGHEAD

No. You?


148 posted on 10/11/2006 8:20:16 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: freedom44
Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has held an emergency meeting after reports that US nuclear powered aircraft carrier Eisenhower was moving towards the Persian Gulf...

Come on...you're tough guys, right? No problem!

I'm sure the stupid infidels don't even remember 1979!

150 posted on 10/11/2006 8:25:10 PM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: Psychotronic Weapon
How is Iran having a nuke our problem?

Is that a serious question?

151 posted on 10/11/2006 8:28:16 PM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: Psychotronic Weapon
Iran having a nuke isn't our problem and ... North Korea isn't our problem.

The second time it is stated, it's a serious proposition.

Run along, the adults are talking.

152 posted on 10/11/2006 8:30:23 PM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: Drew68

Be safe, bless you and thank you for your service!


153 posted on 10/11/2006 8:39:19 PM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: xrp
You have been discredited,and summarily DISMISSED.
155 posted on 10/12/2006 8:29:28 AM PDT by LC HOGHEAD (“Oderint dum metuant”,........... “let them hate, as long as they fear”)
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To: LC HOGHEAD
You have been discredited,and summarily DISMISSED.

I guess that's a step up from you, you never had credibility! HAHAHAHAHAHA.

156 posted on 10/12/2006 10:02:08 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: freedom44

MAY GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED.

I can think of a number of MOOSELIMB leaders--especially religious leaders . . . who'd be put to much better use . . . fertilizing some orange groves somewhere.

And . . . scattering a lot of buildings with pointy towers would improve the landscape considerably.


157 posted on 10/12/2006 10:14:48 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: LC HOGHEAD

Explain to me the logic in putting an SSBN off the coast of North Korea when the Trident missiles can hit North Korea from 5,000+ miles away.


158 posted on 10/12/2006 10:16:02 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Psychotronic Weapon
Isolationism died a very deserved death on December 7, 1941. For those who did not get the message, it died a second time on September 11, 2001. The conservative altrnative is NOT internationalism but interventionism. Conservatism does not consist and never did consist of sticking one's head in the sand like an ostrich and hoping that the bad men will just go away and leave us alone.

Encouraging recent news is that the new Japanese Prime Minister is going to attempt to rid Japan of the anachronistic absence of a military so that Japan can take its place along side the US as our ally. They had already sent troops to the Middle East. Maybe someday, Germany and Russia will grow up and become part of the solution rather than part of the problem. If North Korea does not stand down (and preferably stretch Kim Jong Il's worthless neck in the public square in Pyongyang), we should start our response by giving Japan nukes to end Chinese hegemony in East Asia.

Your post is self-contradictory. You say that you support "wiping out all these Middle East clowns" but then suggest that it is not worth doing.

If we are not trading with them, we will have to ride bicycles instead of cars and join with useless Carter in wearing layers of cardigans while heating our homes with fireplaces. Ummmm, I'm going with "wiping out all these Middle East clowns." When first someone said: "I am not my brother's keeper", it did not work then either.

Your post seems to say that you were for the war before you were against it. That also has a familiar ring of futility. Whoever said that war is supposed to be a cakewalk or be abandoned????

I am all in favor of developing alternative energy sources and replacing Middle East oil with same, but not to the extent of freezing in the dark without transportation for ten years until we have developed the alternative energy sources. When we do, we should starve the Islamofascist bastards into oblivion. Let them sell sand.

If Fallujah had been made a bad memory, there would be little combat but once again, we are fighting a limited war and ignoring the real lesson of history: No half vast efforts, no restraints on our military efforts. If we fight, we win must be the guideline. The willingness of some unemployable camel jockey to blow himself up for jihad or to employ IEDs to blow up our troops for jihad should be an inspiration to world class and unforgettable retaliation until they are on their knees where they belong.

Let THEM worry about what WE might do for a change and drop the superficial facade of faux "civilization" which was our enemy in Korea and in Vietnam and now in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I do agree that we should not interfere with Sunnis and Shiites killing each other off. The Kurds have proven to be ur friends, however, and we should protect them in their own independent state.

159 posted on 10/12/2006 7:15:47 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Psychotronic Weapon; alarm rider
PW: How about we list the ten most important Islamic shrines, give the Islamonutcase leadership thirty days to eliminate the lunatic groups and leaders and, if they fail to do so (including handing over Osama bin Laden dead or alive with each of his capos), start wiping the tenth most important off the map on Day 30, the ninth on Day 45 and so on up to and including Mecca???? I am betting that order will be re-established well before we get to the Dome of the Rock much less Mecca. They can grovel diplomatically whenever they choose. We do not have to relieve their fears unless and until they comply. We do not need "boots on the ground" so long as we have ICBMs, the US Air Force, the US Navy, and such ships as battleships New Jersey and Wisconsin, and nuclear boomers Tennessee, Ohio and Connecticut.

"Limited strikes"????? Just as limited as their destruction of WTC and attempts to destroy Pentagon, White House and/or Congress or less so. Let them ever be an example of what happens when in the immortal words of Admiral Yamamoto (?), they have awoken a sleeping giant. Decorate the wall of the cabinet room with the pelts of Osama bin Laden, and of the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah and of the Iraqi "resistance" leaders. Toss the rest of their remains in a vat of pig blood and televise the festivities on Al Jazeera.

For those who are (like me) Catholic: An Iraqi priest was martyred today by beheading at the hands of jihadist lunatics who demanded that he denounce the pope for quoting a 14th Century Byzantine Emperor on the nature of Islam as an example in a scholarly discussion of history. Find them too and send their pelts to any museum that celebrates the Crusades.

The Middle East is now producing more history than can be consumed locally as George Will once wrote of the Balkans.

We gotta do what we gotta do. Flat. Black. Glow in the dark. If they really insist.

160 posted on 10/12/2006 7:41:42 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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