History of fairness is put to the test [Foley scandal harming support for gay marriage]

Capital Times ^ | 10-15-06 | Dave Zweifel

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"This guy is delusional."

Both Nichols and Zweifel are leftovers from the 60's. I personally know Dave Zweifel; believe it or NOT, we were in the military together; he was a Public Affairs Officer, if you can believe that! "DisInformation" is his middle name. He lies with complete impunity. He is absolutely Squirrel-Certified Nuts.

Both of them are has-been Hippies. It's amazing either of them can still form complete sentences based upon their past drug use "issues" and decreased brain cell count. They both pimp the socialist mantra. Daily. And are PAID for it!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"Vote Early, Vote Often" Ping!

[hsalaw]

Timing is everything.

[thepresidentsbestfriend]

Homosexuality is a unacceptable lifestyle any way you slice it! Republicans never should have embraced the log cabin republicans.We don't need Tammy Bruce! We don't need the gay guy with the little beard from Briton that is on Hardball all the time! We don't need any of them.

What we should have done with this Folly scandal is the following....WE DID NOT KNOW HE WAS GAY! IF WE HAD KNOWN HE WAS GAY,WE WOULD HAVE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.

In my opinion this would have turned the story on its head and we could have had a national debate on homosexuality.Lefty`s and Moderates would argue that homosexuality is a virtue, and the rest of us would have taken THE RIGHT SIDE!!!

Just my opinion jmho

[steveegg]

I've got my "Yes to marriage" sign up. I have to thank James Wigderson for the sign.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"I've got my 'Yes to Marriage' sign up.

Good for you! Let me know when it's torched and we'll file a 'Class Action Hate Crime Suit' and see how far we get, LOL!

I'm waiting for someone to burn a cross on my lawn for my "Vote Mark Green" signage.

Actually, I've seen a lot of Mark Green and Dave Hanson (County Sheriff) signs around. More than I expected for This Neck of the Woods. ;)

Could it be that Pubbies are fed-the-hell-UP with what's going on in our state? I'm thinking there's going to be onehelluva November 8th "SURPRISE!" for the local socialists. :)

[codercpc]

To tell the truth, I just saw the most clever ad in that I have seen yet this election season. Unfortunately it was for the other side. It starts out with the question "Look what will happen in Wisconsin if you answer NO to the amendment question" then it says "NOthing. Gay marriage will still not be legal", it then goes on, and on almost making you believe that if you DON'T want gay marriage in Wisconsin, you should vote no.

[longtermmemmory]

Interesting, the homosexuals are trying to blame a republican for homosexuals inevitably failing. I think they knew they were going to loose and now are trying to save the fund raising.

This Wisconsin situation is about getting leftists to the polls, this article is saying that has failed.

[longtermmemmory]

so homosexuals do all their trysts in public instead of the bedroom?

[Enchante]

Lying jackals like this guy are not fit for journalism..... (well, in the present state of journalism I guess this dude ranks as solidly mediocre).

First the Demagogues try to savage all Republicans over Foley's behavior, even though he was just behaving in accordance with the values of the Studds-Pelosi wing of the Demagogic Party.

Now that some Demagogues start to realize that THEIR campaign of hatred and demagoguery may backfire on an issue they care so much about, they are now looking for another way to attack as bigoted anyone and everyone who may disagree with them.

[steveegg]

I've got my shotgun sighted and ready.

[Rurudyne]

No, I think the double-speak in the original quote has to do with the idea that heterosexual tryst are "secret."

This is double-speak because it is based on the notion that there are still strong moral prohibitions against sex outside of marriage among heterosexuals but not among homosexuals – who would seem to not take great pains to keep their sexual antics a secret relative to heterosexuals.

By implying that heterosexuals are more likely to have "secret" tryst, the OP writer was not denying the promiscuity of homosexuals so much as he was trying to make it a –non-issue– compared to the supposed hypocrisy of straits.

Remember, hypocrisy is among the worst sins for social progressives provided it is defined as pretending you (the regressive) really aren't the evil sicko that we know you are.

[Old Professer]

Two things here that are critical to any sense of the article are embodied in the terms heterosexual and homophobe since one follows the other around the nucleus of homosexual as a noun.

The adjective form of homosexual or heterosexual should be viewed in their historical perspective each time they are used to remind us that the terms only have meaning in the realm of active behavior and not in their modern construct sense of passive nature.

It has not been biological shown that simply having sex predominately or more frequently with a member of the same sex defines a physical state any more than driving a car often sets a person apart from an occasional walk defines a pedestrian.

The modern view of behavior is coming more and more to be seen as being somehow driven by forces apart from the person who exhibits the behavior until just today we see stories about compulsive shopping being just one shopping spree away from being labeled a disorder by the keepers of how things ought to be.

[airborne]

Dems don't give a damn about gays.

They want power, regardless of who they have to step on or over to get it.

[fwdude]

Since the author of that article seems about to break down in tears, will the last FReeper to leave this thread please call the WAAAAmbulance.

Better have extra Waaaabulances in the wings on November 3. Just wait till the amendment passes in this and 7 other states. They'll be bawling on each other's shoulders over the loss of a "right" they never had in the first place.

This shrill emoting is apparent in everything the homoadvocates write, because none of it is based on solid, objective fact - only emotion.

[razorback-bert]

Truth be told, gays are probably less likely than heterosexuals to get involved in secret trysts.

True, with everyone watching in a bathhouse, it is hard to keep it a secret.

[MortMan]

Truth be told, gays are probably less likely than heterosexuals to get involved in secret trysts.

Adjusted for population density of homosexuals versus heterosexuals, I seriously doubt this.

Plus, crime statistics show that pedophiles are substantially more likely to come from the ranks of heterosexuals.

First, Foley is not a pedophile. Second, the "statistics" referred to here (but not cited) are undoubtedly biased by population density, as well. Third, the author is a nitwit.

[Rurudyne]

Not true!

After the abortion lobby, the homosexual lobby is the most cherished block of Democratic supporters.

I'd imagine their real problem with people like Foley, ever present political opportunism aside, is that they demonstrate that gays can go off their designated reservation, too.

In that light, we should see the way that Dems treat too-conservative or Republican gays as being of a piece with the way they treat any too-conservative or Republican blacks, Jews or union members (among others).