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To: Sopater
Thank you, Sopater, for your contribution to the ongoing Ape or Human scientific research survey. Could we please have your expert opinion on these other fossil species?

Which of the following are "just an old ape" and which are "just an old human"? Try it, it's fun!


Fossil hominid skulls. Some of the figures have been modified for ease of comparison
(only left-right mirroring or removal of a jawbone). [CLICK HERE] for larger photo.
(Images © 2000 Smithsonian Institution.)

We know that A) is a modern chimpanzee and N) is a modern human. Everyone agrees that M) was a modern human as well. Your challenge is to fill in these blanks:

Fossil Just an ape Ape-like
transitional
Human-like
transitional
Just a human Not related at all
to apes or humans
B [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
C [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
D [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
E [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
F [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
G [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
H [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
I [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
J [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
K [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
L [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]

The Responses So Far:

Person A
Pan
troglodytes
(modern chimp)
B, C
Australopithecus
africanus
D
Homo
habilis
E
Homo
habilis
F
Homo
rudolfensis
G
Homo
erectus
H
Homo
ergaster
I
Homo
heidelbergensis
J, K
Homo
sapiens neanderthalensis
L, M
Homo
sapiens sapiens
(Cro-Magnon, modern human)
Mainstream scientists ape ape-like trans ape-like, human-like trans ape-like, human-like trans ape-like, human-like trans human-like trans human-like trans human-like trans human-like trans, human human
Published creationists...
Bowden, Malcolm ape   human   human   human     human
Brown, Walt ape ape ape ape       human human human
Gish, Duane (1979) ape   human   human   human     human
Gish, Duane (1985) ape   ape   human   human     human
Luskin, Casey ape ape ape ape ape human human human human human
Mehlert, A. W. ape   ape   human   human     human
Menton, David ape   human   human   human     human
Taylor, Paul ape   human   human   human     human
Amateur creationists...
DannyTN ape ape ape   ape human human human human human
editor-surveyor ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape human human
Elsie ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape human human
Michael_Michaelangelo ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape human human
MississippiMan ape             ape   human
Sopater ape   human human           human
taxesareforever human human human human human human human human human human
vetsvette ape         human       human

57 posted on 10/19/2006 12:50:10 PM PDT by jennyp (There's ALWAYS time for jibber jabber!)
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To: jennyp; DaveLoneRanger
You can put DaveLoneRanger down for H. erectus being human. While trumpting that he was "debunking man-to-human evolution" he linked an AiG paper by Mehlert which asserts such.

Now we just have to watch and see if he ever posts one of the creationist opinions which contradicts Mehlert.

58 posted on 10/19/2006 1:56:55 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: jennyp; DaveLoneRanger
Thanks jennyp, but as you have more correctly noted in the table below, I don't claim to have an expert opinion, but I will be happy to provide my amateur creationist opinion, provided that you can answer a couple of questions.
1. Do you post this somewhere?

2. Do all ameteur evolutionists agree with the results attributed to Mainstream scientists?

3. Do all expert/published evolutionists agree with the mainstream scientists?

4. If a previously expert/published scientist doesn't agree with the mainstream scientists, are they no longer considered an expert nor a scientist?
I just noticed that there are no results for evolutionists, amateurs or otherwise, giving the impression that all evolutionists agree, and I know that that is not true.

I'll take the survey, but I'll only provide my amateur opinions to you if you answer my questions and agree to survey some amateur and published evolutionists individually, and then tell me where the results are posted. This looks like a great idea.
68 posted on 10/19/2006 5:32:13 PM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: jennyp

All I can say is there are some who have just too much time on their hands.


81 posted on 10/20/2006 12:03:42 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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