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Jeff Skilling Sentenced to 24 Years (Enron CEO)
WCHS Portland ^ | October 23, 2006

Posted on 10/23/2006 1:11:20 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

Breaking


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: corporatescandals; dupedinvestors; enron; kenlay; skilling
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To: L.N. Smithee
A white white collar criminal is going to serve nearly twice the time a treasonous, Islamofascist symp lawyer is going to serve?

24 years is twice as long as 28 months?
141 posted on 10/23/2006 6:15:05 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Viva España!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

According to the legal talking heads on our local newscasts, there is no parole in federal prison. He will have to serve all of it, except any small breaks he earns for good behavior.


142 posted on 10/23/2006 6:40:18 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Wonder what he would have gotten if he had just removed National Security records in his socks from the Archive?


143 posted on 10/23/2006 6:48:02 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Point of Order:

Under Federal sentencing guidelines Skilling has to serve 85% of sentence i.e. 85% of 292 months sentence = 20.4 years.


144 posted on 10/23/2006 6:56:33 PM PDT by flattorney ( The DeLay Chronicles - Updated 24/7: http://www.freerepublic.com/~flattorney)
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To: wideawake

I don't believe those other people cooked the Enron books and engaged in a premeditated effort to defraud them...or did they.


145 posted on 10/23/2006 7:14:38 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Xenalyte

Well, I would like to see that particular lawyer sent into the general population with a lot of New Yorkers ....


146 posted on 10/23/2006 7:28:24 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: RedStateRocker

You and me both!


147 posted on 10/23/2006 7:29:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Viva España!)
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To: RedStateRocker
some people will natter "well, they shouldn't have had all their money in Enron". I can only hope that if one of their loved ones is shot/stabbed/raped no one ever says "well, you shouldn't have gone to a 7/11 at night".

Not the same at all. Investments are by their nature inherently risky, going to 7/11 at night generally is not. Who hasn't heard the caution, "don't put all your eggs in one basket?"

Investing 75% of your retirement nest egg in one basket is felony stupid and entirely their doing. No one forced them to make such a idiot decision. Seems they got burnt by their own greed.

148 posted on 10/23/2006 7:33:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Arnold-McClintock-YES 85 Parents Notified-YES 90 Eminent Domain-SanDiego:NO A,YES B & C)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Skilling oughta be on a jet out of the country of O.J. Simpson, and Lynne Stewart to night!


149 posted on 10/23/2006 7:35:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Of comparative interest, the two people that plea bargained in the horrific February 20, 2003 West Warwick, Rhode Island nightclub fire, that was started by a pyrotechnic device used by the rock band “Great White”, killing 100 people and injuring another 200 in a matter of minutes – they both pleaded no-contest and received 4 years in a low security prison and qualify for a work release program. Under state sentencing guidelines they quality for parole in only 16 months.

Very obvious this country values the loss of money over the loss and injury of innocent human life.


150 posted on 10/23/2006 7:36:08 PM PDT by flattorney ( The DeLay Chronicles - Updated 24/7: http://www.freerepublic.com/~flattorney)
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To: Revolting cat!

>>>Skilling oughta be on a jet out of the country like O.J. Simpson

Naw, they just all come to Florida.


151 posted on 10/23/2006 7:37:49 PM PDT by flattorney ( The DeLay Chronicles - Updated 24/7: http://www.freerepublic.com/~flattorney)
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To: wagglebee

A neighbor worked for a crane rigging company here in Minnesota that had some contracts with Enron on some wind power contracts. Enron failed to make payments to the contractor to the point where the contractor could no longer make payroll, and folded. So a lot of people lost jobs. Enron screwed many other construction contractors as well.


152 posted on 10/23/2006 7:41:07 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I'm told it's a nice place, Jeffrey!


153 posted on 10/23/2006 7:41:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: don'tspeak4me

What's the difference between a lawyer and a vampire?

A vampire only sucks blood at night.


154 posted on 10/23/2006 7:44:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Arnold-McClintock-YES 85 Parents Notified-YES 90 Eminent Domain-SanDiego:NO A,YES B & C)
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To: newzjunkey
the greed or stupidity of the victim has no bearing on the criminality of the perp. Or is it OK to rob people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time? Not everyone is a sophisticated, or even knowledgeable investor; are you saying that it is OK to rip them off? A church function on financial prudence my wife and I attended had the 'adviser' telling people, from the podium, that it was VITAL to invest in high return and ONLY high return stocks. Now I knew this was BS but a LOT of people in that congregation followed what seemed to them like prudent advice - so it's OK to rip them off because the were 'felony stupid'?
155 posted on 10/23/2006 7:47:09 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Or a sentence reflecting a logical accounting of the (literally) thousands of persons who lost most of their savings as a result of Enron's illegalities.

Skilling did wrong and should be punished. However, one should never invest his life savings in the same company that provides his pay check. You could say that greed caused those people to lose their savings and not be totally wrong.

156 posted on 10/23/2006 7:48:32 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Great news


157 posted on 10/23/2006 8:05:49 PM PDT by indcons
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To: wideawake

62% of the assets in the employees' 401(k) were in Enron stock. I once saw the mutual fund choices that employees could use. There were some good funds--some duds, but a lot of well-diversified choices.

Ask any financial planner and he or she will tell you: don't put more than 10% of your investments into any one stock--especially your employer's stock.

People got greedy, and they got burned. Badly.

You're exactly right on this, wideawake.


158 posted on 10/24/2006 12:12:46 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Had the jihadists in Iraq stayed home, would they now be tending petunias rather than attacking us?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

From Reason online:

Enron maintained a rather typical 401(k) plan for a company of its size. It offered 20 investment options, its own stock being one. It matched 50 percent of employee contributions-up to 6 percent of a salary-with Enron stock. Workers couldn't sell shares their employer gave them until they turned 50, a common restriction for gifted stock. They were not prohibited from selling stock they purchased. At the end of 2000, 62 percent of the value of employee 401(k) accounts was held in Enron stock. (This is risky but not unique. Procter & Gamble's fund is 95 percent company stock, Abbott Laboratories' is 90 percent, Pfizer's is 86 percent, and Coca-Cola's is 82 percent.)


In early 2001 Enron decided to contract out its 401(k) administration to an outside company. The transfer required a freezing of accounts, which took place over 11 trading days, from October 29 through November 12. Enron's stock was at $13.81 when it froze the accounts. By the time 401(k) investors could sell again, the stock was at $9.98.


159 posted on 10/24/2006 12:19:55 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Had the jihadists in Iraq stayed home, would they now be tending petunias rather than attacking us?)
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To: Revolting cat!

Hmmmmm, Paraguay.......isn't that where Butch and Sundance ended up????????


160 posted on 10/24/2006 2:54:14 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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