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Search on for missing U.S. soldier in Iraq
CNN.com ^ | 10/23/2006 | CNN

Posted on 10/23/2006 4:41:01 PM PDT by MVV

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A search is under way for a U.S. soldier who went missing in Iraq Monday evening, amid fears the soldier might have been kidnapped.

A military official in Washington told The Associated Press the missing service member was an Army translator.

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The end of Ramadan cannot come soon enough for our Troops! There is no end in sight and everyday we lose more and more Soldiers and Marines! I am in touch with dozens of Soldiers and the stories they tell me would make your blood run cold! Things have gone from bad to unbearable in Iraq and what are we going to do about it? We can't possibly pull out, I am not suggesting that, but perhaps letting our Soldiers BE Soldiers and not policemen might be a good start.
1 posted on 10/23/2006 4:41:03 PM PDT by MVV
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To: mickie

What is the solution? How many more Soldiers and Marines are going to have to die before something is done?


2 posted on 10/23/2006 4:42:03 PM PDT by MVV (Compassionate Conservative!)
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To: MVV
How about we set aside the cultural respect? How about we just treat them like what they are: Bad Guys. How about we let our soldiers FIGHT! Oh, yeah, and get rid of CNN. All this touchy-feely stuff is getting us nowhere, fast.
3 posted on 10/23/2006 4:45:14 PM PDT by blu (Save the cheerleader, save the world!)
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To: MVV

The end of Ramadan cannot come soon enough for our Troops! There is no end in sight and everyday we lose more and more Soldiers and Marines!




No, the end of the US elections cannot come soon enough. This spike in casualties has less to do with Ramadan then it does with the US elections, proving what we've been saying that the terrorists hear the division the Democrats have sowed on the war and have thus been emboldened. The terrorists are driving up US casualties, and now possibly capturing this soldier, to keep a stream of bad news from Iraq coming to help elect Democrats. American voters need to ask why the terrorists are openly working to elect Democrats by providing them with as much bad news as possible to campaign on.


4 posted on 10/23/2006 4:45:50 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MVV

I pray for this soldier. The "religion of peace" seems to be celebrating their holy days in the usual way. Sickening.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 4:46:28 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: blu

Bttt!


6 posted on 10/23/2006 4:47:48 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: MikeA

Thank you for answering that for me.

People need to keep a steady strain. This is a tactic by the terrorists. We do not want to play into their hands like the weak minded Spaniards did.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 4:47:57 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: blu

We need to lift the rules of engagement that our troops are under and let them DO THEIR JOB and BE SOLDIERS! This is Bull Shi!!! And way overdue!


8 posted on 10/23/2006 4:48:23 PM PDT by MVV (Compassionate Conservative!)
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To: MVV
"... the missing service member was an Army translator."

Anybody have any clue how this happens? The translator is generally with the patrol leader, who is generally where he can best C2 the patrol, which is generally somewhere in the middle.

9 posted on 10/23/2006 4:48:42 PM PDT by Axhandle
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To: MVV

We need to get 80,000 more troops in Iraq after this election is over. We can clamp down on Baghdad and get a big force into Anbar to go after the bad guys. I have a feeling that is precisely what is going to happen when this election is over, maybe not 80k more troops but quite a bit more. That's what's behind the Baker Commission report and Warner coming back from Iraq saying we may need a change in strategy. I've maintained that's all been orchestrated to provide cover for the administration after the election to seriously up the number of troops in Iraq and to send them on the offensive.

So don't lose heart. We all mourn for the losses but the terrorists and their Democratic friends want those images to cause you to lose heart and to give up on the war effort. The US faced far heavier casualties than this in prior wars and far tougher times and we prevailed. There is no reason we cannot do so again. But it will require you and other Americans to replace fear with resolve and to send the message we're prepared to see this through to the end, even if that means seeing a temporary increase in casualties there should we do the wise thing after this election and go on the offensive with more troops being inserted into Iraq.


10 posted on 10/23/2006 4:49:44 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MikeA; mickie

I dont give a SHI! about the upcoming elections! Right now I am most concerned about the welfare of our troops that are getting extensions left and right! This is an unending battle that won't end, we will be in IQ for YEARS!!! And yes I am a registered Republican that is FED UP!!


11 posted on 10/23/2006 4:51:09 PM PDT by MVV (Compassionate Conservative!)
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To: MikeA

Thank you for a calm and cool analysis Mike.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 4:52:05 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: rlmorel

The Spanish train bombings are a good comparison. Since Al Qaeda can't hit us here at the moment, they're driving up our casualties in Iraq to impact our election just like they did in Spain. Unfortunately it seems all too many Americans will fall victim to this tactic, certainly the media already has and of course the Democrats did long ago, and don't get this is all to get them to vote a certain way. Voters need to ask why it is terrorists think Democratic control of Congress will be good for their cause and then vote accordingly.


13 posted on 10/23/2006 4:52:30 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MikeA

I am in daily contact with dozens of Soldiers that are there, defending and trying to stay alive. The stories and pics they send me are unbelievable. I chat with these brave men whenever and as often as I can. It's a bad, bad scene. I don't need the Dems to tell me anything! I hear it firsthand and it makes me sick!


14 posted on 10/23/2006 4:53:57 PM PDT by MVV (Compassionate Conservative!)
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To: MVV

Solution: Make...the...rubble...bounce.


15 posted on 10/23/2006 4:55:28 PM PDT by quark
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To: MVV

You're a victim of the drive by media is what you are. Turn off the TV news and stop getting played by the media and its emotion-drenched coverage of Iraq. And I'm sorry you don't care about these elections. The future of the country and our effort to defeat Al Qaeda are what's at stake.

And if you don't want to fight them in Iraq, then where would you suggest that effort take place?? That confrontation had to come some time and where it happened was in Iraq. Do you have somewhere else this should have happened instead or do you think that Clinton-like we could have just ignored Al Qaeda and they'd have given up on trying to get at us??

As can be seen by the anger in your posts, you are all emotion and very little thought. We all mourn the troops but good security policy is not dictated by sorrow and emotions. Yes, I think changes need to be made and they are. I think we need more troops there to go on the offensive. But losing our minds and going all emotional just ensures the enemy wins and that they succeeded in their goal to cause us to lose our will.

I would suggest less of your kind of reaction would go along way to telling the enemy that they cannot cause us to lose heart and give them more a sense of hopelessness around their cause than around ours.


16 posted on 10/23/2006 4:56:49 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MVV

And many more soldiers are saying the media greatly exaggerates it all. No doubt the people you are talking to are in the worst of it in Baghdad. But you're reaction to this is what the terrorists are hoping for...the loss of hope and resolve. Why don't you steel yourself instead and advocate for a more forceful effort to win this thing?


17 posted on 10/23/2006 4:58:29 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MikeA

I don't watch the news Mike. I am in touch on a daily basis with the troops that are over there, are you? I don't think so.


18 posted on 10/23/2006 5:00:26 PM PDT by MVV (Compassionate Conservative!)
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To: MikeA

Theres no winning this "thing" until our soldiers are allowed to be soldiers. This is a PR war!


19 posted on 10/23/2006 5:01:41 PM PDT by MVV (Compassionate Conservative!)
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To: MVV

I can see you're not interested in a thoughtful debate but just want to take cheap shots that somehow you are more informed than me because you talk to a small group of soldiers. Have a nice night.

And consider what's at stake in our effort to defeat Al Qaeda in IRaq before you go all cut and run on us. War is tough. That's not news to anyone. But it seems to you that this war is somehow worse than most which it is not. You seem not to know that US history is replete with warfare far more excrucitatingly difficult than this. Yet we prevailed precisely because we were determined to. Read the history of the US Revolution, the Civil War and World War II, etc to see how unbelievable difficulties, defeats and even outright debacles nonetheless were overcome for us to win. Even with present difficulties we will prevail. In WW2 we left over 10,000 US troops in the Phillipines to be captured by the Japanese. Before their capture they were left with no ammo, no food, little water. They were barely stick figures by the time those forces were capture en masse and taken to Japanese POW camps on the Batan Death march. It was a horrible defeat and US forces were left without food, ammo or hope as MacArthur was ordered to Australia. Should we have given up with that terrible defeat?

I bet the men you talk to in Iraq would agree with me that the present difficulties can be overcome with determination and grit, not just theirs but ours, and that we owe it to them not to lose our will. We've suffered far less in this fight than we have in other wars in which we've prevailed. We'll prevail again.

Anyway, I can tell you're emotional so I am going to end my part of this discussion. It is too difficult to talk logic with someone consummed by emotion. And I'm more of a gentleman than to keep aggravating you.


20 posted on 10/23/2006 5:07:38 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MVV

Most people I'm in touch with (Marines)are fighting the good fight, not the fight everyone (Congress, Arm Chair Generals) wants them to fight. If the Generals run the war the way they want (Not what freaking Congress or the Demorats want) and the ground troops do as they are trained to do this war will be won. Remember a B(^*&hing Marine is a content Marine. Like it or not we have rules for war.

Semper Fi


21 posted on 10/23/2006 5:10:33 PM PDT by Garvin (John F. Kerry is a Masshole.)
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To: MVV

The point is not whether YOU care about the elections. The point is that the bad guys in Iraq are paying attention and understand that people (like some here) are going to go into full hand wringing mode over things like this and hopefully will vote for the party they believe will hand them a victory.
susie


22 posted on 10/23/2006 5:15:37 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: MikeA
Bingo! You have hit the proverbial nail...

I'm watching O'Reilly right now and that rotten old carcass, Andy Rooney, is calling on the POTUS to get on TV and surrender to the terrorists. BO'R is now talking to some feminist know-it-all. I am weary of this war, but isn't that just too bad. I am sick unto death of the cowards and weaklings who need to shut up and sit down.
Every time some idiot like this woman starts yammering, it gives aid and comfort to our enemies.
23 posted on 10/23/2006 5:17:21 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: MikeA

Well said and right on the mark. Also predictable to those who watch the trends (Spain comes to mind).


24 posted on 10/23/2006 5:39:22 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: MVV
One thing that will help our troops and the USA citizens is to GOTV this Nov 7 th, we can't hand the future, our troops future to the Democrats..
Our troops are counting on us to win this Nov 7 th, and they want a leader who supports them...
The energy and passion you have for the troops, you can put it in another place and GOTV and get as many people to vote as possible.
25 posted on 10/23/2006 5:44:03 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: MikeA

I returned from Iraq last November and admittedly things may be different now but after returning from a mission, I would tune into the MSN and was amazed about the difference in reality. I wondered if they were reporting on the same war. CNN was the worst offender about biased reporting. I feel a sense of helplessness about our captured soldier and I can only surmise the hell he is going through now. Since CNN is so tight with the terrorists maybe we could find out from them where he is. JessM


26 posted on 10/23/2006 5:44:46 PM PDT by jesseam
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To: comanchechief

Why did you post a freepmail to me instead of posting on this thread?
susie


28 posted on 10/23/2006 5:59:48 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: jesseam

This is politics.

It is no coincidence that a CNN reporter is embedded with this unit and suddenly a man is missing. This is a kidnapping for propaganda purposes pure and simple. The terrorists know that CNN is a friend and will give them all the airtime they need, knowing it will hurt Bush and Republicans in these midterms.

I sent my email to CNN, I hope you will all do the same.


29 posted on 10/23/2006 6:16:46 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: MVV
This is an update on the story:

A U.S. soldier in Baghdad was reported missing late Monday, and residents said American forces sealed the central Karadah district and were conducting door-to-door searches. Other reports claimed he was an Army translator of Iraqi descent and was abducted.

A military official in Washington said the missing service member was a translator and that the initial report was he may have been abducted. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not cleared for release.

30 posted on 10/23/2006 6:27:54 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: MVV

"What is the solution? How many more Soldiers and Marines are going to have to die before something is done?"

Read his post above this one. This is a concerted effort using some old plants... No Conservative would show fear like this.

LLS


31 posted on 10/23/2006 6:43:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: comanchechief

We can come up with 80,000 troops. The idea we can't is ridiculous. The numbers aren't lacking, but the political and national will. The US army numbers 500,000. The US Marines number 178,000. Out of that we can come up with another 50-80K troops.


32 posted on 10/23/2006 6:47:50 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MikeA

My post right above this one was to you Mike. Sorry.

LLS


33 posted on 10/23/2006 6:49:32 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: MVV
I think this is Baghdad not Ramadi. What happened to the buddy system?
34 posted on 10/23/2006 6:50:15 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: MikeA

the end of the US elections cannot come soon enough.

You hit the nail on the head. It was the same way right before the '04 elections. The terrorists know that the only way they can defeat us is at home - through public opinion...just like Vietnam.


35 posted on 10/23/2006 6:54:15 PM PDT by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Are these two people trolls then?


36 posted on 10/23/2006 6:54:15 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: MikeA

I'm thinking one of them is, judging by the freepmail he sent me.
susie


37 posted on 10/23/2006 6:57:14 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: quark

No. That is not the answer.


38 posted on 10/23/2006 7:04:45 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: MikeA
I don't know to be honest, but I have friends in Baghdad also. Things are not good there now, but they tell me they knew it was coming and they prepared as best as they could, given the Iraqis now control their own autonomy. We can't do as we did... we don't have the authority to do whatever it takes without consultation. Me thinks this is going to be part of the changes in tactics.

I do know that Conservative Patriots don't rant like rosie with pms.

LLS
39 posted on 10/23/2006 7:05:13 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: MizSterious

prayer bump


40 posted on 10/23/2006 7:06:10 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: brytlea; comanchechief

comanchechief freepmailed me as well.

The point comanchechief was making was that Iraqis didn't attack the Spaniards. This is true.

But the EXACT same people are behind the violence in Iraq, the violence in Spain and 9/11.

They may not all answer to the same person at the same time, but they are all peas from the same pod, murdering by the same plan.


41 posted on 10/23/2006 7:10:30 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: rlmorel

I am rather amazed at anyone who doesn't understand the truth of what you just posted.
susie


42 posted on 10/23/2006 7:11:58 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ishabibble

The problem we have is that this is a war that is VERY different from any war fought in the past, and it is difficult for people to believe we are at war.

It is because there are people prepared to do violence on our behalf halfway around the world that we can be forgiven for finding it hard to believe we are at war.

It is no coincidence we have not been attacked again. And this is the way life is going to be for a while.

People don't know it, but there has been this fight going on around the globe in unnamed places against people who want to do us harm. We don't hear about it.


43 posted on 10/23/2006 7:16:25 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: MVV

You're being emotionally swayed by the media. That is exactly what they (the media/Democrats) want, especially prior to an election.

Our troops don't need for us to be panicking over here. Since you're in touch with "dozens of troops," I assume through a soldier support organization, usually we are advised to keep communications positive.

I for one am proud of the good work our troops are doing, and have done, in Iraq. Our President is bowing to whatever the commanders advise in carrying out OIF.

Meanwhile, we need to wait for more information re this lost or kidnapped Army translator.

I found this just now:

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,224119,00.html


44 posted on 10/23/2006 7:25:23 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: MikeA

One good post after another, Mike A.

I am disgusted with what the media is doing with this every day, while the U.S. election draws near. This is the full extent of Democrat desperation.

They denigrate the freedom that our soldiers are fighting for, have always fought for.


45 posted on 10/23/2006 7:31:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: MVV
I am in touch on a daily basis with the troops that are over there,

Do they tell you how much they DESPISE CNN...??!!

46 posted on 10/23/2006 7:36:13 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: rlmorel; rafaeljordan

Goodness I got another freepmail from someone who doesn't even seem to be posting on this thread. I'm not sure why these folks don't debate the stuff here out in the open. I'm feeling rather *populare* tonight! ;)


47 posted on 10/23/2006 7:38:59 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea; rafaeljordan

Same with me. I got another freepmail from someone else named rafaeljordan, as you evidently did. I am not sure why these folks don't want to post. Perhaps they are trying to be polite because they don't want to embarrass us in public because we are so misinformed or ignorant?


48 posted on 10/23/2006 7:42:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: jesseam

Thank you, JessM. We are very, very proud of you and grateful.


49 posted on 10/23/2006 7:43:49 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: La Enchiladita

I feel the same way as they do...check out my vanity thread last week...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1722111/posts


50 posted on 10/23/2006 7:46:45 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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