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A New Foundation for Positive Cultural Change: Science and God in the Public Square
Human Events ^ | September 15, 2000 | Nancy Pearcey

Posted on 10/28/2006 3:22:14 PM PDT by betty boop

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To: metmom
Partially blind and distorted yes.
But maybe for some of them it is really not dishonest nor deceptive, but they simply are not able to see beyond those horizon's.

In their world; as science cannot measure or record it, does mean it has no reality.

W.
81 posted on 10/28/2006 8:21:56 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: betty boop
the American civil order -- our very Constitution -- is established on the basis of the specifically Christian view of man,

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The authority for creating this nation was not human law but the laws of God in Nature - actual God and actual Nature. This is precisely why any attempt to remove God from Nature is so outrageous. It distorts reality and attacks the foundation of our nation.
82 posted on 10/28/2006 8:24:01 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Liberty Wins

" == However, isn't there an ethical code attached to the practice of each discipline? And when this ethical code is breached, isn't the science therein in danger of becoming "perverted" science? == "

Yes, and we have a very topical example of the perversion in the form of the professional "bioethicist." I believe that the more accurate rendering of the vast majority of these people is more like "bio-DEATH-ASSIST," because they all seem to me to be an incredibly bloodthirsty lot, both at the beginning and the end of life.


83 posted on 10/28/2006 8:34:02 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: metmom
Yes, of course. But science is the doing. There is no science in and of itself. Science in and of itself is an old dusty something in a basement, practically non-existent.
84 posted on 10/28/2006 8:38:45 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: metmom
For them to pontificate about things they have no knowledge of because they have deliberately excluded them from their consideration, is deceptive.

HAMMER MEETS NAIL!

85 posted on 10/28/2006 8:45:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: betty boop

Bookmark, and bump.


86 posted on 10/28/2006 8:47:34 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: WKB

Thank you!


87 posted on 10/28/2006 11:31:58 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: betty boop

placemarker bump


88 posted on 10/29/2006 1:26:36 AM PDT by mitch5501 (typical)
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To: betty boop

And thank you all for this thread. A breath of fresh air after being attacked on certain recent threads!


89 posted on 10/29/2006 1:36:14 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: betty boop
welcome to the party

I've entered the room...give me a few minutes to mingle!

90 posted on 10/29/2006 6:15:45 AM PST by .30Carbine (My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness)
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To: megatherium

Which of the three books you mention explains the soul ?


91 posted on 10/29/2006 8:14:50 AM PST by aumrl (voting against dims - not 4 reps!)
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To: megatherium

Which of the three books you mention explains the soul ?


92 posted on 10/29/2006 8:15:03 AM PST by aumrl (voting against dims - not 4 reps!)
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To: betty boop

I would like to recommend a wonderful book, "The Privileged Planet" by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay W. Richards. I recently saw the TV documentary based on it and was deeply impressed. The main thesis is fascinating: that the Earth is situated in a "galactic habitable zone," an area of the universe that is protected from the deadliest cosmic dangers. They provide an endless array of mathematically improbable, but favorable factors that allows Earth to support complex life. It would appear that advanced life may be much, much more rare than has been suggested by Carl Sagan, et al.

Earth is also in a unique position in the galaxy to allow a clear view of the heavens so mankind can study and discover its secrets. Not only are there no cosmic dust or gas clouds surrounding us, we have been given an unusually transparent atmosphere, a rare thing in itself.

This was a new idea to me. I had always taken for granted that other star systems would be just as good a vantage point for observation of the rest of the universe. Not until you see the documentary do you realize how strange and mysterious (and lucky) our planet's location is.


93 posted on 10/29/2006 8:15:18 AM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Liberty Wins
They provide an endless array of mathematically improbable, but favorable factors that allows Earth to support complex life. It would appear that advanced life may be much, much more rare than has been suggested by Carl Sagan, et al. ... Earth is also in a unique position in the galaxy to allow a clear view of the heavens so mankind can study and discover its secrets.

It's difficult to argue chance causation under these circumstances. The confluence of so many mathematical improbabilities is serendipitous, to say the last.

Thanks for the excellent post, Liberty Wins, and for the book recommendation! "The Privileged Planet" sounds fascinating.

94 posted on 10/29/2006 8:35:31 AM PST by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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To: Amos the Prophet
The authority for creating this nation was not human law but the laws of God in Nature - actual God and actual Nature. This is precisely why any attempt to remove God from Nature is so outrageous. It distorts reality and attacks the foundation of our nation.

This bears repeating! Excellent, Amos. Thank you so very much!

95 posted on 10/29/2006 9:11:03 AM PST by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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To: Cicero; betty boop

Enjoyed this conversation in the corner by the window with Cicero very much! More champagne, anyone? (;


96 posted on 10/29/2006 9:16:03 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: hosepipe; betty boop

Also delighted in my chat with hosepipe on the red couch by the fire! (; Pass that man a cigar!


97 posted on 10/29/2006 9:16:45 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: gcruse; betty boop

There's at least one good joke teller at every party, thank God!


98 posted on 10/29/2006 9:17:31 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: cornelis
You're just right, cornelis: No thought or action - and science falls into both categories - is amoral. There is no vacuum where life is present - something will indeed fill the void left by the removal of right morality - whether in science, public schools, politics...name the venue.
99 posted on 10/29/2006 9:24:13 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

LoL...


100 posted on 10/29/2006 9:29:41 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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