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Doctors: let us kill disabled babies
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 11/04/06 | Sarah-Kate Templeton

Posted on 11/04/2006 5:15:44 PM PST by Pokey78

ONE of Britain’s royal medical colleges is calling on the health profession to consider permitting the euthanasia of seriously disabled newborn babies.

The proposal by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecology is a reaction to the number of such children surviving because of medical advances. The college is arguing that “active euthanasia” should be considered for the overall good of families, to spare parents the emotional burden and financial hardship of bringing up the sickest babies.

“A very disabled child can mean a disabled family,” it says. “If life-shortening and deliberate interventions to kill infants were available, they might have an impact on obstetric decision-making, even preventing some late abortions, as some parents would be more confident about continuing a pregnancy and taking a risk on outcome.”

Geneticists and medical ethicists supported the proposal — as did the mother of a severely disabled child — but a prominent children’s doctor described it as “social engineering”.

The college called for “active euthanasia” of newborns to be considered as part of an inquiry into the ethical issues raised by the policy of prolonging life in newborn babies. The inquiry is being carried out by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics.

The college’s submission to the inquiry states: “We would like the working party to think more radically about non-resuscitation, withdrawal of treatment decisions, the best interests test and active euthanasia as they are ways of widening the management options available to the sickest of newborns.”

Initially, the inquiry did not address euthanasia of newborns as this is illegal in Britain. The college has succeeded in having it considered. Although it says it is not formally calling for active euthanasia to be introduced, it wants the mercy killing of newborn babies to be debated by society.

The report does not spell out which conditions might justify euthanasia, but in the Netherlands mercy killing is permitted for a range of incurable conditions, including severe spina bifida and the painful skin condition called epidermolysis bullosa.

Dr Pieter Sauer, co-author of the Groningen Protocol, the Dutch national guidelines on euthanasia of newborns, claims British paediatricians perform mercy killings, and says the practice should be open.

Sauer, head of the department of paediatrics at the University Medical Centre Groningen, said: “In England they have exactly the same type of patients as we have here. English neonatologists gave me the indication that this is happening.”

Although euthanasia for severely handicapped newborn babies would prove contentious, some British doctors and ethicists are now in favour. Joy Delhanty, professor of human genetics at University College London, said: “I would support these views. I think it is morally wrong to strive to keep alive babies that are then going to suffer many months or years of very ill health.”

Dr Richard Nicholson, editor of the Bulletin of Medical Ethics, who has admitted hastening the death of two severely handicapped newborn babies when he was a junior doctor in the 1970s, said: “I wouldn’t argue against this.” He spoke of the “pain, distress and discomfort” of severely handicapped babies.

The college’s submission was also welcomed by John Harris, a member of the government’s Human Genetics Commission and professor of bioethics at Manchester University. “We can terminate for serious foetal abnormality up to term but cannot kill a newborn. What do people think has happened in the passage down the birth canal to make it okay to kill the foetus at one end of the birth canal but not at the other?” he said.

Edna Kennedy of Newcastle upon Tyne, whose son suffered epidermolysis bullosa, said: “In extremely controlled circumstances, where the baby is really suffering, it should be an option for the mother.”

However, John Wyatt, consultant neonatologist at University College London hospital, said: “Intentional killing is not part of medical care.” He added: “The majority of doctors and health professionals believe that once you introduce the possibility of intentional killing into medical practice you change the fundamental nature of medicine. It immediately becomes a subjective decision as to whose life is worthwhile.”

If a doctor can decide whether a life is worth living, “it changes medicine into a form of social engineering where the aim is to maximise the benefit for society and minimise those who are perceived as worthless”.

Simone Aspis of the British Council of Disabled People said: “If we introduced euthanasia for certain conditions it would tell adults with those conditions that they were worth less than other members of society.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bioethics; cultureofdeath; euthanasia; firstdonoharm; moralabsolutes; neonazism; prolife
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To: uptoolate
“We can terminate for serious foetal abnormality up to term but cannot kill a newborn. What do people think has happened in the passage down the birth canal to make it okay to kill the foetus at one end of the birth canal but not at the other?”

And herein lies the problem

Yes, shocking. But no, there's no slippery slope, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

41 posted on 11/04/2006 7:11:31 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Pokey78

I would have to see a more complete version of their proposal before I can voice an informed opinion. In cases of severe deformity, terminating care may be a better option than life at any cost.


42 posted on 11/04/2006 7:17:31 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: saganite
The only difference is the Nazis believed the ones who deserved to die were born to the wrong race.

The Nazis killed many of their own race too. In fact the Holocaust began with the quiet killing of the handicapped and people in mental hospitals.

43 posted on 11/04/2006 7:17:35 PM PST by Americanchild (..and deliver us all from Islam! Amen!)
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To: Pokey78

Reading it is giving me creeps....what a bunch of morally bankrupt idiots.


44 posted on 11/04/2006 7:18:17 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee; Mr. Silverback; cgk; cpforlife.org

Sickening.
Moral Absolutes/Pro-Life ping


45 posted on 11/04/2006 7:20:09 PM PST by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: Pokey78
How long, oh Lord, will you hold back your hand?

This is despicable.

46 posted on 11/04/2006 7:21:53 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Nachoman
If we kill doctors, we will rid the world of the foremost cause of drug addiction.

Kill the lawyers, kill the doctors.

47 posted on 11/04/2006 7:22:14 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Pokey78
Geneticists and medical ethicists supported the proposal — as did the mother of a severely disabled child — but a prominent children’s doctor described it as “social engineering”.

I would describe it as murder.

48 posted on 11/04/2006 7:22:59 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Pokey78

How about we kill every doctor who is in any way censured by a state medical bureau? Because he/she is therefore clearly severely disabled regarding the practice of medicine, and therefore creates a disabled medical profession.


49 posted on 11/04/2006 7:25:55 PM PST by cammie
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To: paudio

You are correct. The Nazis killed over a hundred thousand Germans under the auspices of a "euthanasia" program called Aktion 4. Children with physical deformities or signs of mental retardation were reported to the health ministry, as were adult patients in insane asylums and the like.


50 posted on 11/04/2006 7:29:47 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: Logophile
I would describe it as murder.

As would any decent human being.

51 posted on 11/04/2006 7:29:51 PM PST by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: staytrue
Okay, but what if the disablity is a painful one for the child.

We don't take human beings behind the barn and shoot them to put them out of their pain. If the child is in pain, you do everything you can to make them as comfortable as you can, short of murdering them.

52 posted on 11/04/2006 7:33:36 PM PST by Elyse
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Hawking would have a lot of famous company, too.

-Alexander Pope was born deformed from TB

-Voltaire suffered chronic debilitating illnesses as a child, requiring enormous amounts of medical care (and thus "squandering resouces" to use pro-euthanasia terminology).

-Albert Einstein was thought to be a simpleton early on because of his speech difficulties.


Scary stuff.


53 posted on 11/04/2006 7:38:28 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: Pokey78
Geneticists and medical ethicists supported the proposal — as did the mother of a severely disabled child — but a prominent children’s doctor described it as “social engineering”.

I could come up with a stronger word for it. Whatever happened to the code of "Do no harm"?

54 posted on 11/04/2006 8:05:01 PM PST by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Pokey78

Euthanize conscience, and the rest will follow.


55 posted on 11/04/2006 8:06:34 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Pokey78

The bloodthirstiness of the anti-life left is revealed yet again!


56 posted on 11/04/2006 8:08:33 PM PST by TBP
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To: Pokey78

This all follows inevitably from the UK's government-financed medical system. Seriously-disabled babies will need expensive care all their lives. A British medical system facing tight budgets will put undue pressure on families to allow them to kill disabled babies, and anybody else who puts above-average demands on their budgets


57 posted on 11/04/2006 8:17:31 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Pokey78; Agnes Heep; agrace; Aliska; amdgmary; AnAmericanMother; A-plus; atruelady; attagirl; ...

British master race? - Brit doctors substitute hypocritic oath for hipocratic.


58 posted on 11/04/2006 8:28:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; Pokey78

<< We need to keep the influence of diseased Europe far away from our shores.

By (its) "morality", Steven Hawking would have been (Murdered). >>

As, such is the rate at which his home state is spiraling itself into its new and final Dark Ages, he may well yet be.

And as for keeping the Euro-peons' diseased influence from our shores is concerned, the dissolute decadent, degenerate, dead and decaying post-Christian moral relativism that defines modern Europe (AKA Eurabia) including its offshore secondary satellite states, is alive and well in our beloved FRaternal republic and regularly, unchecked, (The while both demonstrating and indeed defining the classic Narcissistic Personality Disordered ego-maniacal inferiority complex) struts and spews its superciliously sanctimonious "superiority," upon these boards!

Its simpleton standard bearer: having long ago given up its futile post-failed-online-pornographer attempts to be defined "Christian;" nowadays fancies itself a Russian.


59 posted on 11/04/2006 8:29:00 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: rom
""I am SO glad that our Founding Fathers fled Europe."

For what it's worth, our courts are rapidly immersing us in european insanity.

60 posted on 11/04/2006 8:35:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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