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Doctors: let us kill disabled babies
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 11/04/06 | Sarah-Kate Templeton

Posted on 11/04/2006 5:15:44 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
Countries with large populations like India and China have gone beyond this issue. Patients pay directly for care before it is received or they go without. These countries have medical capabilities equal to the US but individuals have to pay out of pocket to receive it.
Countries with socialized medicine and large welfare population will eventually face the same dilemma of who gets care and what disease processes get treatment. For example most European countries are nihilistic in treating certain brain tumors because of the poor prognosis of the patient vs. the aggressive and expensive treatment we provide here in the US to extend a patient's survival by months. We will be faced with these difficult ethical decisions as our population grows and medical resources become stretched.
61 posted on 11/04/2006 8:35:47 PM PST by pterional
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To: Free Baptist

Wow. You are, of course, 100% accurate.


62 posted on 11/04/2006 8:36:40 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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To: staytrue; saganite
"what if the disablity is a painful one for the child."

See Post #27 for the answer.

63 posted on 11/04/2006 8:40:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Pokey78

No fetus can beat us!


64 posted on 11/04/2006 8:41:51 PM PST by Jorge
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To: SevenofNine

There was a thread some time back about the Hippocratic Oath. A majority percentage of doctors in this country polled answered that the oath was more of a tradition, a rite of passage that had to be said as part of becoming a doctor. But it wasn't a binding oath as they saw it.

Then there were some who wanted the oath changed because they did not want to take a chance at feeling bad about themselves should they break some of the tenets of the oath.


65 posted on 11/04/2006 8:44:32 PM PST by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: Skooz
(My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)

I could make claim to that myself. Thanks for using that as your tag line, It could have taken me years to find it if you had not.

66 posted on 11/04/2006 9:01:56 PM PST by SweetCaroline (....If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it.)
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To: Pokey78

Fine! How about this, as well? Any docter losing a malpractice suit will be administered a 9mm injection of lead to the back of the head. This will give us needed "management options".


67 posted on 11/04/2006 9:12:05 PM PST by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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To: Pokey78

[If a doctor can decide whether a life is worth living, “it changes medicine into a form of social engineering where the aim is to maximise the benefit for society and minimise those who are perceived as worthless”. ]

That about says it all. It's all about "playing God" and (God knows) doctors love to do that. For some, it's why they go into the profession in the first place.


68 posted on 11/04/2006 9:19:14 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: Free Baptist

21 years ago today my nephew was born at 26 weeks, weighing 2-1/2 lbs. When I saw that respirator pumping 150 breaths per minute into his tiny naked body I prayed for God to take him. I did not want my brother and his wife to be burdened by a significantly handicapped child.

Well, God taught me! My nephew is now at the top of his class in his junior year at our state's finest university. He is physically normal, handsome, charming and brilliant!


69 posted on 11/04/2006 9:20:46 PM PST by JubJub
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To: Pokey78
a prominent children’s doctor described it as “social engineering

I know the doctor thinks he is using a pejorative term, but the word "murder" is the correct word in English.

Maybe in Nazi Germany this was "social engineering."

70 posted on 11/04/2006 9:25:53 PM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: redbaiter
Step 1. Corrupt the language..

Yes. That's what's happening.

71 posted on 11/04/2006 9:27:37 PM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: Zeroisanumber

The doctors are not talking about witholding extraordinary treatment. They are not talking about giving only pallitive care for babies who are beyond the hope of medical science. They are not talking about ending life support when brain function ceases. They are talking about active euthanasia. Active euthanasia is a code word for murder. It is based in the teachings of utilitarian ethics which hold the good of society is always superior to the rights of an individual.

This is the polar opposite of Judeo-Christian teaching which holds that person's life is a gift from God and is not the property of any nation, state or other person. It says that societies' and governments' legitimate function is the protection of this and other God given rights.

Killing babies is wrong. It is wrong when they are in the womb and it is wrong when they are born.


72 posted on 11/04/2006 9:27:46 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

Nice post.


73 posted on 11/04/2006 9:30:40 PM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: Pokey78
I always wondered if they would start saying, if a child (or anyone) because disabled say at ten would they advocate killing them then or say fifty.To think about it they probably say yea just off them all. Nazi.
74 posted on 11/04/2006 9:45:15 PM PST by svcw
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To: darkangel82

Thanks - had computer/other problems today but hopefully can do some pingifying tomorrow.

Britain is really hurtling into the abyss. And many in the US want to follow suit.


75 posted on 11/04/2006 10:17:26 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: khnyny
That about says it all. It's all about "playing God" and (God knows) doctors love to do that. For some, it's why they go into the profession in the first place.

What can you say, there are sociopaths in every profession. Some people are just evil...

76 posted on 11/04/2006 10:26:29 PM PST by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: saganite

"The only difference is the Nazis believed the ones who deserved to die were born to the wrong race."

Not entirely. The Nazis started by euthanizing maimed German vets from the first world war, and also disabled German children.

The enthusiasm in this article is chilling. Really creepy.


77 posted on 11/04/2006 10:52:37 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Enterprise
Obvious question: "Can we kill disabled doctors too?"

I propose we do away wqith healthy doctors- heck, all healthy people- let's make it normal to be dissabled & look upon helathy people as the freaks for a change- we'll excersize our management options & euthenize them- Cripes- Docs are going to be waging a jihad against peopel who are different- good going Europe- Cripes- dissabled peopel are responsible for some of our most important discoveries and inventions- I'm tellin ya- this world is freakin messed up in the stinkin head! Besides, if Docs start euthenizing the dissabled, Kerry is going to be in big trouble

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

78 posted on 11/04/2006 11:07:49 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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80 posted on 11/05/2006 12:21:25 AM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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