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How much is President Bush and Bushies to Blame for this Loss?
opinion | 11/7/2006 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:19:51 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

This loss is going to have historical consequences – how much is President Bush to blame for this loss? Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with President Bush and the “Bushbots”?

Bush? Or is it Bush and the RINOs? . . . And worst of all to blame, the fault of what some talk show hosts call the Harriet Myers Storm-trooper crowd of Bushbots who simply would bray like a donkey whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?

Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.

Only in the last couple weeks did Bush start to try to get the message out about the good economy, but the fact is there were many conservatives who kept saying this is a winning message for a long time, if only the Republicans would get serious about getting the message out --- and the reply from the Bushbots was “the DOW and the stock market isn’t the same as the economy”, ignoring that the important message about the economy wasn’t just the stock market but much more.

The Republicans were on a dog and pony show with the “Bushies”, of which some now call the “Bushbots”, and years were wasted with what many now say were idiots who followed someone who never was a conservative anyway. The reality might just start to sink in that Bush just used some conservative lingo to take these idiots for a ride.

Yes, the President was “on track” regarding the war on terrorism – and yes, he and everyone else were correct that this war won’t be over in one or two years. The point being – no, Bush didn’t own the adage that this will not be a short war, but will be a long war, perhaps decades long – and everyone who understood the enemy said the same, and were saying so before even Bush took office in 2000.

In fact, many of these conservatives were saying Usama bin Laden and the Islamic terrorists et all hit the Trade Center once and he was coming back to finish the job, but Bush was too busy running around with Vicente Fox talking amnesty to listen.

But don’t worry, Bush will probably get his amnesty now. No, I’m not talking about the amnesty for Iraqi “insurgents” who killed American soldiers (no amnesty for our soldiers being held for “war crimes?”), no I talking about amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. And one may as well say exactly what we are talking about here – this isn’t about amnesty for illegal aliens from Jamaica, nor Russians, and such – it’s all about illegal aliens from Mexico, which once given will be irreversible, America will not be the same ever again and no one will be able to turn it around once done, because it’s done.

The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.

The funding for the war in Iraq will likely now be cut off, a front in the battle on terrorism of which Bush wasn’t fighting as a “war” against the terrorists anymore – yes, let me say that President Bush has been doing a good job regarding the war on terrorism so lets just get that out there now - but, it seemed more like he was thinking the war on that particular front was over and he was “building Democracy” and sure didn’t want to accidentally kill any Iraqi civilians in the process because it wouldn’t look good in the New York Times and CNN.

Anyway, for sure the Democrats are going to have the leverage to screw us up on that one and cut and run not just in Iraq but everywhere. If and when the Democrats get there way, which they likely now will, what that tells the world, since Vietnam, and now Iraq which really was a punch drunk easy war as far as any war goes, the message to the world will now be that America can never win another war.

And that is really bad news since a lot of Americans are going to die as a result.

What that means is Iran now runs the region. And billions and billions and billions of dinars will sponsor further terrorism as they dance in the street having defeated the great Satan – and the Islamic terrorist with a likely victory in Iraq will do exactly what they already said they are going to do: they will turn their attention to overthrowing the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.

Pakistan already has the nuclear bomb.

The governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are next on the head-chopping list, of which the Islamic fundamentalists may likely have very good success on instigating the axe. Because, at least Bush did a good job on the war on terrorism, but you can absolutely count on it that if the Democrats are going to call the shots, the region is going to explode; the Islamic terrorist front will be global like no ones business.

The idiots have been saying the war on Iraq fomented more Islamic terrorists.

The fact is, the growth of Islamic terrorism is an historical trend of which was escalating before Iraq, was on the march and would have been as life-size now whether we invaded Iraq or not, in fact likely even more so if their march wasn’t tripped up a bit in old Babylon.

We have a great economy.

But the economy won’t be great after the terrorist hit us again. In fact, when it happens, don’t be surprised how fast you are going to lose your job.

Democrats running the House. Now just watch the war. The war isn’t over. It’s now going to get bigger than ever.

Well, I guess some are saying, with the Dems running things, they take the blame for things, too. The problem with this is, the old media will still blame everything on Bush. So, unless the American people figure out that what is about to happen to America was the fault of the Democrats, then we are in big trouble.

But we were already in big trouble with this election. And a lot of Americans didn’t understand the consequences now, and this will be the same crowd who won’t understand later when everything blows up in our face.

I suppose some are thinking that all I have been doing is the same as the Democrats – to simply blame Bush for everything.

No, I don’t blame Bush for everything. I blame myself. Because, for some reason, I didn’t get involved enough, involved with other conservatives to get the conservative message to Americans.

Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media. As far as I’m concerned, I consider them an enemy of Democracy.

In fact, I consider the Democratic Party an enemy of Democracy.

And, thank you President Bush, since 911 we, America, hasn’t had another major terrorist attack on our soil. I give the President thanks for this. It has been a blessing.

I don’t think this blessing is going to last much longer. Not after tonight.


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KEYWORDS: bush; bushbots; bushies; dixiechixwin; weinerbot
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To: jrooney
This loss is to blame on only the republicans whom wanted to punish the gop by staying home or voting third party.

Keep telling yourself that. The vast majority of eligible voters in this country occupy the middle ground. Stuck in the FR echo chamber you might not realize this. They voted on the Iraq mess and the Republican scandal extravaganza, among other things. Read 'em and weep....I am.
181 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:12 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: McGavin999

I disagree with you that Rudy is as or more conservative as McCain on social issues, but I agree 100% with you that he would be tough when it comes to the War on Terror.


182 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:18 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: SUSSA

F-YOU!


183 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:28 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Once the Dems elect Pelosi, Pres Bush and VP Cheney should step down. Pelosi would become President.

As he gets on Air Force 1 for the last time, give the American public one last slaute, the one finger salute.

His last address should be, I heard you, America has heard you, and soon you will hear from the terrorist. Good luck, the Republicans can defend for themselves.


184 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:35 PM PST by Kev from Ohio
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To: NinoFan
McCain left his first wife, for a younger version and got a new f-i-l with mob ties. He's old. His kind of cancer keeps coming back; Rudy's won't.

A LOT of Nam Vets HATE McLame.

I can go on and on, but I really must get off this thing.

Rudy's strengths are there, along with his baggage. The ONLY thing McQueeg has IS baggage.

185 posted on 11/07/2006 11:29:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Red Steel

An iron fist in 2003 would have been a better strategy...plus the Iraqi Army should not have been disbanded but coopted to help keep order during the transition....


186 posted on 11/07/2006 11:30:26 PM PST by Al Simmons (Always look on the bright side of life!!!)
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To: Prost1
Listen SWEETUMS, I'm not the "sick" one here...that would be you.

Would you prefer I called you a derogatory name instead?

187 posted on 11/07/2006 11:31:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: MaxMax

Very thoughtful response.


188 posted on 11/07/2006 11:31:35 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Brian_Baldwin
From the NR blog:

Bad Election Day for Appropriators [Kathryn Jean Lopez] An e-mail: By my count there were seven vulnerable GOP appropriators (Sweeney (NY), Northrup (KY), Taylor (NC), Sherwood (PA), Walsh (NY), Kirk (IL), and Doolittle (CA)). As it stands now, it appears that four of those appropriators (Sweeney, Northrup, Taylor, and Sherwood) have lost. Taylor was even a "cardinal" as chairman of the Interior appropriators subcommittee. And the only reason that the three other vulnerable GOP appropriators are still standing is that the results aren't in yet. In the Senate, of the two vulnerable GOP appropriators (DeWine (OH) and Burns (MT)), DeWine has already lost. So much for the theory that pork delivers victory.
189 posted on 11/07/2006 11:32:07 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: All

I guess they will post their victory statements later in the morning.


Folks, I hate to wake you all up, but we now have serious problems.

The future of Freedom in this country will now come into question, shortly.

Are we going to let Socialist Internationale and the CP impose it's will on us?

Just one of the many questions ahead.


190 posted on 11/07/2006 11:32:34 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Darkwolf377

bump


191 posted on 11/07/2006 11:33:17 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: NinoFan
But they aren't "DIFFERENT" at all!

Both divorced, both had cancer ( except that McCain's keeps coming back ), both have a whiff of Mafia in the background.

You keep claiming that you know all about McLame, yet you quite obviously do not, if you can post with a straight face that McQueeg's baggage is "different".

192 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: McGavin999

Except the "war on terror" will not be the message of the Dems. It's Socialist issues that will be the change of direction they are crowing about.


193 posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:14 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: NinoFan

McCain is FOR gay marriage, Rudy is against it.


194 posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:18 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah, that worked great for Clinton.


195 posted on 11/07/2006 11:39:12 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: rogue yam
"we can recover from in 2008 if we act in a principled and disciplined manner."

Agreed. Eating our dead will only make us sick. We need to decide to move now to get this fixed. If it means following a new Republican or conservative who holds our view.

But we need to start now to work to make it right. What ever did not work we need to be rid of. Trying to appease the MSM and the dems did not do work. Getting away from our small government, smaller spending roots did not work.

Fighting the war on terror was the right thing, fighting it like Johnson did Vietnam (lawyer and pollster in every targeting meeting) was wrong.

Getting constitutionalists on the Supreme Court was the right thing, not seriously fighting illegal immigration was the wrong thing.

According to polling on ideas right up to today the country was mostly in our camp, our camp did not seem to offer them enough to stay.

In other words, our core roots that we almost all seem to believe in by participating on FR are valid and in line with the majority of Americans.

We just need a way to reaffirm what we stand for and find those who really believe as we do. We also need to find someone to present it to the public..

We also need to start guick and work hard. Two years passes fast.
196 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:45 PM PST by JSteff
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To: nopardons

"Listen SWEETUMS..."

Goodnight, I do not care to converse with metrosexuals.


197 posted on 11/07/2006 11:44:21 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

#181. Your post indicates the power of the MSM. I for one stopped watching them years ago, because of it's extreme left wing idealism. Same reason I stopped watching FOX. I was surprised to see so many people this evening finally realizing, FOX was almost as bad as the rest of the MSM.
I saw that quite some time ago. About 2 minutes of any on of the networks is all I can stand and then their flipped off.

If you constantly preach negativism, which is constantly what the MSM did, you get the negative results.

Well, tonight was a victory for negativism.

I only pray it's a shortlived negative blight on the country.


198 posted on 11/07/2006 11:44:21 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

3) The terrorists, who, with the same sort of help the NVA/VC go from the media, gave us a somewhat more drawn out version of Tet '68. They increased their efforts, and it cost them lots of casualies. Cost us quite a few too, every one of which the MSM trumpeted as a victory for the Terrorists.


199 posted on 11/07/2006 11:46:09 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Brian_Baldwin
...whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?

Part of the problem there is that you lump all of us together. Some of the above I was pissed off about, the reaction to the rest of it by certain "conservatives" tended to piss me off. Conservatism isn't a checklist of beliefs that people have to subscribe to be members of the club. There should be this thing in the conservative camp every now and then called a "debate".
200 posted on 11/07/2006 11:46:47 PM PST by dr_who_2
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