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Most Reliable Cars
CNNMoney.com ^ | 11/9/2006 | CNNMoney.com

Posted on 11/09/2006 1:20:48 PM PST by eraser2005

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Ford Fusion midsized car and its Mercury Milan sibling scored big in Consumer Reports' annual new car reliability survey, just beating out the industry's quality standard-bearers, the Honda Accord V6 and Toyota Camry V6.

But, overall, Japanese brands are still the ones to beat. Of the 47 vehicles with the highest predicted reliability, 39 are Japanese. Of those, all but seven are made by Toyota or Honda.

American cars are continuing to improve in reliability, however, according to Consumer Reports' surveys.

The "predicted reliability" rankings appear in the 2007 New Car Preview issue of Consumer Reports magazine.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: autoshop; cars; ford; honda; toyota
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To: Alberta's Child

i have a f150 that runs like a top.
its all about care...changing oil, tires, basically taking care of yo stuff!


101 posted on 11/09/2006 7:25:36 PM PST by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: Spktyr

"and someone needs to put the Crown Vic out of it's misery".

Not Nice--Chevy put Caprice out of it's misery and where did it get them in the fleet/taxi/police market? The lil' impala? Just not enough car for the money. Not enough power.


Crown Vic's go for UNDER 20K right now, new. Even if you count them as outdated tech, they are VERY reliable over time and survivable in a crash. And they outclass just about everything if you take their pricetag into account.

If you want flashy, like a new Charger, it costs. The Vic keeps me out of a #$%^&* mini-van.






102 posted on 11/09/2006 7:30:37 PM PST by Neo-Luddite ("Don't believe your own bulls*hit, that's the first sign you're in trouble".)
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To: dinoparty
All I know is that I own a Toyota Camary with about 125,000 miles, and the ONLY thing I've ever had to do is replace tires and get the oil changed. Still runs like a charm. Honest

My neighbor has a 15 year old honda (civic?) which now has about 270k miles on it. Regular oil changes and an occational set of plugs have been all that the engine has gotten! In the meantime, they've also had a chrysler van and a ford van which didn't even make 100k without transmission replacements and various other fairly major repair items!

103 posted on 11/09/2006 7:34:33 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Neo-Luddite
Ford Australia has a *very* nice car that would be a perfect replacement for the ancient CV. It's lighter, stronger, faster and handles better. The CV is underpowered, slow, can be outrun by just about anything on the market, and unless equipped with the police handling package, handles like a pig on ice. It's also not all that safe in a crash, as many police officers can attest (and I'm not talking about the overblown-by-the-media rear-end-collision-fires). And for such a large car, it has really poor interior room. And let's not talk about the fuel economy numbers, which even my old XJ6 betters.

It's called the Ford Falcon, and we need it here *now*.


104 posted on 11/09/2006 7:47:49 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Or, if you want something bigger, the Ford Fairlane and LTD have also survived Down Under:

Ford Fairlane:

Ford LTD:

The Australians make better "American cars" than we do. 6 speed automatic, RWD, IRS, your choice of an I6 or V8, both of which are more powerful than the anemic 4.6L in the CV. http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1137384227751&pagename=FOA%2FDFYPage%2FDefault1024&c=DFYPage

105 posted on 11/09/2006 8:02:08 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NYFriend; Spktyr; Oberon
Wasn't there a Dart version with a 340? I think that was the top Dart, considering what a boat anchor 383s could be.

Darts came with 'em all.

Slant 6, 318, GT models came with the 340, 383 (with a smattering of 440s) and, in '74 only, a 360.

And I don't know where you got your information, but a boat anchor a 383 ain't. It's a big bloc with a short stroke. It winds up like a small block. The bigger motors might get it on the top end, but a 383 can match almost any of them in a stoplight race.

106 posted on 11/09/2006 8:05:18 PM PST by uglybiker (Don't look at me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: Oberon
I wouldn't think you could keep a 426 Dart between the ditches. That can't be a factory car, can it?

Mopar built a handfull of Hemi Darts and Barracudas to compete in drag racing. They weren't made for the street.

107 posted on 11/09/2006 8:13:39 PM PST by uglybiker (Don't look at me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: Spktyr

Where did you get that info? I believe it is on the CD2 platform - which was not based off the platform the Mondeo rides on, but rather the old Mazda 626 platform....


108 posted on 11/09/2006 8:22:49 PM PST by eraser2005
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To: RobRoy

That's right - NEVER neglect changing a timing belt....

I had to fork over the dough for that on my Camry. Fortunately the Taurus uses a timing chain. Not only that, but it doesn't even have tensioners or guides to go bad. :)


109 posted on 11/09/2006 8:26:43 PM PST by eraser2005
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To: quikdrw

they also had a 170 slant six too


110 posted on 11/09/2006 8:28:39 PM PST by advertising guy
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To: eraser2005

A friend of mine, who tracks all things Contour/Mondeo. I'll go check that, though - as we all know that 'stuff we heard from a buddy' isn't always reliable.

OK, per Wikipedia, the Escape *is* on the CD2 platform. I type corrected.


111 posted on 11/09/2006 8:31:59 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Brad Cloven
You might want to check the replacement cycle on the timing belt. The older models required it somewheres around there.

It doesn't matter. The engine is not an "interference" type engine. The valves will not interfere with the piston even if the belt breaks. If it breaks the engine will simply stop running and your only cost will be the cost of a new belt (and maybe a tow). With other "interference" type engines, if the timing belt breaks you will suffer multi-thousand dollar damages when the pistons crash into the valves. Not so with the Corolla.

112 posted on 11/09/2006 8:53:41 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Spktyr

But we also know not all things on Wikipedia are completely accurate... :)

(of course, its generally pretty good, though)


113 posted on 11/10/2006 4:48:22 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Spktyr

That photo proves nothing. Do you have any statistics on FI fires in the BMW?

BTW, That is an old BMW. I wonder how many shady mechanics worked on it prior to the fire?


114 posted on 11/10/2006 6:40:26 AM PST by PhilipFreneau (God deliver our nation from the disease of liberalism!)
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To: PhilipFreneau

That was mostly a joke...

That said, BMW *has* been having FI problems of late, especially with the Valvetronic engines if memory serves. Just check any BMW forum for late models. (I recently owned a 750iL, and it had issues.) Try searching bimmerforums.com for "fuel injection problems".


115 posted on 11/10/2006 8:28:12 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

116 posted on 11/10/2006 8:33:53 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: eraser2005

Just yesterday on my way home from work I passed a disabled Nissan Armada on the side of the road. It was relatively new and the hood was up and three people were standing there gazing and scratching their heads.


117 posted on 11/10/2006 3:21:49 PM PST by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: Brad Cloven

We helped my daughter buy a 96 Geo Prizm (Corolla) 5 years ago with an easy 141,000 miles on it; I serviced it every 3,000 miles right up until I did a full timing belt service and sent her off to Va. Beach last year.

She sold it to a member of her husband's family and they are still driving it every day with close to 260,000 on it now.

She wishes she had it back since her Eclipse got eclipsed at an intersection and she has been without a replacement car.

A new baby (her first) is due Monday and now she wants another SUV like her husband's or maybe a van because of the baby.

Babies are expensive enough without having to have their own cars at birth.

It must have been a hundred years ago that I drove my wife home with our newborn son on her lap in our 1962 Pontiac Grand Prix with four speed transmission and Tri-Power.

Her baby will be riding home in a $300.00 "Travel System" that locks into place in the Trailblazer, courtesy of GM designers and the ever-busy social engineers of traffic safety.

Such is progress.


118 posted on 11/11/2006 9:12:59 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Oberon

Looks like somebody got a little carried away with the "Hillbilly Chrome" on the wheels, there.


119 posted on 11/11/2006 9:20:16 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Toby06
I bought a new Toyota 4WD pickup in '85 and owned it for 19 years.

The thing NEVER left me stranded. I too, had to replace the head gasket because I neglected the antifreeze.

After 19 years people still pulled up into my drive way wanting to buy it.

Great truck!
120 posted on 11/11/2006 9:28:17 AM PST by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: tacticalogic

No way, that was the LeMans; I used to work on Opels, exhaust systems rotted away in a years time; the engine was a leaker and underpowered and the body was built from what must have been recycled steel beer cans; a salesman leaned his butt back on one in the showroom one lazy Monday evening and when he stood back up, he casually reached under the fender where his imprint was left and banged it back into shape with his fist.

One day I arrived at work to find an Opel station wagon dropped off outside the bodyshop door that had hit a horse; the engine was pushed through the firewall and crammed up against the front seat.

All this was in 1970 and an Opel was never on my must-have list.


121 posted on 11/11/2006 9:29:26 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Toby06

IIRC, it was the 22-RC (I think that meant Calif.),
but basically yes, it was the 22R.

Pretty powerful engine, long lasting. I got the car with over 100,000 miles on it and kept it for about 5 years. The engine I put in was from a junkyard. They guaranteed it would run. I checked the compression, and it was up to specs (actually, it was just a tad over). So, don't really know how many miles the engine had on it.


122 posted on 11/13/2006 10:30:27 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (It's turtles all the way down.)
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To: MonroeDNA

You owe it to yourself to test drive the Tundra-based models, like the 4 door Truck or the Sequoia. The ride, quietness and comfort are unbelievable. It is the Lexus of trucks.

I tested the 4-Runners, and they quickly reminded me of my 1984 Toyota Truck. Rougher, less refined, stiffer, louder, etc.

I'm old enough and doing well enough to make the $5K or so upgrade to the Tundra. It is a better ride than virtually every car in which I've ever ridden.


123 posted on 11/14/2006 6:09:15 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Osama Wins!)
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To: eraser2005

I am surprised that nobody has brought this up yet, but it seems to me the best confidence a manufacturer has in its vehicles is the duration of the warantee.

Seems the big three have pretty wimpy warantees. 55k? lol.

10 years sounds about right.

I have a BMW Z3, and run the piss out of it. Redline it pretty much every time I take it out. BMW has pretty bad warantees, but it is not because they don't last. It is to make money on regular maintenance. The rape you on that.


124 posted on 11/14/2006 7:23:11 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: MonroeDNA

And the only company which believes in 10 years is Hyundai/Kia.

But only if you keep the car... the extra warranty is non-transferable.

Get rid of that and GM and Ford have the best warranties in the business...


125 posted on 11/15/2006 5:56:57 AM PST by eraser2005
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