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Pro-gun, anti-abortion and fiscally conservative: meet the neo-Dems
Guardian ^ | 11/10/06 | Ed Pilkington

Posted on 11/10/2006 1:08:07 AM PST by paudio

The conservative Democrats, or new Democrats as they are sometimes called, were disproportionately represented in the most highly contested races against Republicans, and are likely to form a substantial bloc within the new members.

Heath Shuler, a former American football celebrity who now holds a House of Representatives' seat for North Carolina, is representative of the group. He has an evangelical Christian background and is on the right of the argument on many social issues such as abortion.

Democratic party leaders deny that they had an official strategy to plant right-wing candidates in vulnerable Republican seats as a way of winning over voters. But Rahm Emanuel, the chairman of the campaign to win back the House of Representatives, has said that when they searched for candidates with the best hopes of winning, they ended up with several with a moderate approach. "As a group, they are moderate in temperament and reformers in spirit," he said.

That is not the experience of Mr Shuler, who told local newspapers that he had been reluctant to stand for election but was strong-armed into it by Mr Emanuel. "Rahm was tougher than any of the college coaches who were calling me when I was in high school. None of [the coaches] could hold a candle to Rahm Emanuel as a recruiter," he said.

The number of conservative Democrats among the 28 who wrestled house seats from Republican incumbents has yet to emerge, but with 27 of the 40 candidates in the most contested seats falling into this category, the figure could be substantial. They will join an already sizeable caucus within the Democrats in Congress who are on the right of the party and will be encouraged to line up formally with the two existing sub-groups: the New Democrats and the Blue Dog Coalition.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beholdentopelosi; bluedogdemocrats; elections
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We'll see how this new batch of Blue Dog Coalition works. Keep in mind, this is from Guardian. Practically almost every US politicans are on their right.
1 posted on 11/10/2006 1:08:09 AM PST by paudio
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To: paudio
On the other hand, it's not bad for conservatives. The Democrats will vote together on procedural votes, but not on anything else, and the Republicans still have a solid core. If we can split the Democrat loonies from the solid Dem conservatives, then we will win more than we lose in this lame-duck Congress.
2 posted on 11/10/2006 1:13:36 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: GAB-1955
The scenario you mentioned was common in the late 1990s and early 2000s, I think. But later they didn't have many Blue Dog Democrats anymore, and having Condit as one of their leaders didn't help.
3 posted on 11/10/2006 1:46:09 AM PST by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: paudio
Ole Heath and the other 26 that ran on conservative values that won are in for a huge rude awakening, if they think that they will have any kind of voice within the Democrat party.

These fools have sold their souls for a vote and power!
4 posted on 11/10/2006 1:47:33 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: GAB-1955

Any pro-life limited-government legislator is fine by me.

I consider my self GOP exclusively due to the pro-life plank in the platform.

If that were ever removed, I would consider myself an independent.

I am Catholic, Pro-life, Conservative and Republican, in that order.




Hat tip to Mike Pence, whose trademark slogan on his radio show was:

"I am Christian, Conservative and Republican, in that order".


5 posted on 11/10/2006 1:48:14 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Post-9/11 Volunteer Active Duty OEF Vet Lawyer (who is too dumb to understand Kerry's apology))
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To: paudio

The "new" democrats basically use fraud to get elected. They run and win as GOP lite, but when they get to DC they are beholden to pelosi and emmanuael and will vote their radical leftist line.


6 posted on 11/10/2006 1:50:10 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Notwithstanding
Any pro-life limited-government legislator is fine by me.

If you actually beleive these "new" dems are the italicized above, may I suggest that you visit your local used car lot. You seem to enjoy the experience of being suckered.

7 posted on 11/10/2006 1:52:05 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: paudio
Wouldn't Heath Shuler and other "so-called Blue Dogs" beholden to George Soros?

If so, they'll have no choice but to listen to Nancy Pelosi or else their campaign funds for 2008 would be cut.

8 posted on 11/10/2006 1:53:20 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Dane

Many of them are from Republican districts. I don't think they will move to the left right away, at least not in the first two year. If they do, they will say goodbye to their offices in 2008.


9 posted on 11/10/2006 1:55:01 AM PST by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
or else their campaign funds for 2008 would be cut.

Then they probably can switch party...

10 posted on 11/10/2006 1:55:48 AM PST by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: Dane

I have little hope that these new guys will vote in accord with the values they claime dot hold. But it is possible.

Hell, we can't even count on many Republicans to vote in accord with the values outlined in the GOP platform!


11 posted on 11/10/2006 1:59:33 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Post-9/11 Volunteer Active Duty OEF Vet Lawyer (who is too dumb to understand Kerry's apology))
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To: Dane

I have little hope that these new guys will vote in accord with the values they claimed to hold. But it is possible.

Hell, we can't even count on many Republicans to vote in accord with the values outlined in the GOP platform!


12 posted on 11/10/2006 1:59:49 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Post-9/11 Volunteer Active Duty OEF Vet Lawyer (who is too dumb to understand Kerry's apology))
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To: paudio
Many of them are from Republican districts. I don't think they will move to the left right away, at least not in the first two year. If they do, they will say goodbye to their offices in 2008

Some will have to move left, no matter what, to push through the radical left agenda of pelosi and the radical leftist chairmen of the house committees.

pelosi and emannueal are probably right now figuring out a voting matrix for these new "dems", so that some can be "protected", but still to get to the magic number of 218, some of these new democrats will have to vote for the radical agenda pelosi wishes to ram down the throat of the country.

It's all smoke and mirrors, but what else to expect from the democrats.

13 posted on 11/10/2006 2:01:09 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: paudio
However, they're back. We have to exploit this fracture. We can point to the power play maneuvering of the left and say "The Democrats don't care about your values."
14 posted on 11/10/2006 2:09:25 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: mariabush

...and not much power.


15 posted on 11/10/2006 2:18:16 AM PST by wastoute
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To: GAB-1955
On the other hand, it's not bad for conservatives. The Democrats will vote together on procedural votes, but not on anything else, and the Republicans still have a solid core. If we can split the Democrat loonies from the solid Dem conservatives, then we will win more than we lose in this lame-duck Congress.

First of all, the "solid Dem conservatives" are virtually nonexistent. Go to the American Conservative Union's congressional ratings. You have to go to "Louisiana" (on the House Side) to find a Democrat who cracks a "lifetime" fifty percent. Living in the KC area, I'm familiar with two alleged "moderate to conservative" Democrats (Ike Skelton in Missouri, and Dennis Moore in Kansas) who don't hit a fifty percent rating. How is that possible? Because of the very "procedural votes" (and the committee votes) that you mention. The "moderate and conservative" Dems can move a bill to the floor without "officially" voting for it when the bill comes before the entire House for the proverbial "up or down" vote. Only rarely are the "CINO" and "MINO" Dems asked to vote in favor of liberal legislation, and even then only as many votes as may be needed are asked for. Frankly, when you look at the ACU ratings you realize that a "moderate" or "conservative" Democrat is a closeted Liberal.

16 posted on 11/10/2006 2:30:27 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: MinorityRepublican
Won't matter because their conservative voters won't stand for a non conservative candidate. The Republicans will be sure to put up a much better opponent next time around. They were tied to an incumbent who had some ethics issues people weren't too fond of. Besides the dems will have no choice but to put money back into this candidate if they wish to hold the seat. If he votes differently than he ran as a candidate he is screwed. Keep an eye on this guy and the other neo-dems.

On a side note I do like Shuler and what he stands for. He really does have the wrong letter next to his name but that is it.
17 posted on 11/10/2006 2:38:19 AM PST by rtsimon
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On a side note I do like Shuler and what he stands for. He really does have the wrong letter next to his name but that is it.

Will you still like Shuler when he votes the pelosi line.

18 posted on 11/10/2006 2:40:58 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: MinorityRepublican
If so, they'll have no choice but to listen to Nancy Pelosi or else their campaign funds for 2008 would be cut.

That depends upon how many there are. If there are enough of them, then Pelosi will have to listen to them or she will no longer be speaker.

19 posted on 11/10/2006 2:44:40 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
That depends upon how many there are. If there are enough of them, then Pelosi will have to listen to them or she will no longer be speaker.

There are enough of them(new dems) and they will vote for Pelosi.

20 posted on 11/10/2006 2:46:56 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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